[OSM-talk] Links from wiki* back into OSM

Marc Gemis marc.gemis at gmail.com
Thu Sep 28 10:03:56 UTC 2017


O, I even believe that e.g. all (or a large number of) Dutch streets
are in Wikidata without having a Wikipedia article for the individual
streets.

On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Marc Gemis <marc.gemis at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for explaining, Andy.
>
> Please note that as I said before, it is not true that there is a
> Wikipedia article for each Wikidata item. E.g.  There is a whole group
>  working on inventarising art in musea. They do create Wikidata items,
> but no Wikipedia articles for the individual items. It is true that
> each Wikipedia article (or page) has a Wikidata entry, but not the
> other way around.
>
> regards
>
> m
>
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Andy Townsend <ajt1047 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 28/09/2017 10:36, Marc Gemis wrote:
>>>
>>> Andy are you now saying that it is OK to have 1 wikidata tag on each
>>> street, so someone can create an external list of streets with
>>> Wikidata ids to represent some kind of collection (like "all streets
>>> named after Leuven") ?
>>
>> Firstly I'm not saying "what is or is not OK" - that's essentially the point
>> of this discussion, to find out what people do think.
>>
>> What I'm saying is that the expression of that sort of relationship possibly
>> doesn't belong in OSM itself (because it's not really on-the-ground
>> verifiable, or at least in many cases it won't be).
>>
>> If a street passed whatever tests wikipedia impose to have a wikipedia
>> entry, and by inference a wikidata one (wikidata items essentially being all
>> created from wikipedia, with links added later) then yes, by all means add a
>> wikipedia/wikidata link to the OSM object, then add your "etymology" link
>> within wikidata.
>>
>> Obviously wikipedia/wikidata's rules for inclusion are very different to
>> ours (in some cases the opposite - wikipedia says "no original research -
>> please copy from some other source").  There are plenty of examples of
>> things that people think should be in wikipedia and aren't, and also things
>> that shouldn't be in wikipedia/wikidata (because they don't exist) and are.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Andy
>>



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