[OSM-talk] today's tragic helicopter accident in Bavaria

Oleksiy Muzalyev oleksiy.muzalyev at bluewin.ch
Wed Apr 11 06:40:07 UTC 2018


Thank you, Jo. It was a typing error. It is definitively debris.

With best regards,
Oleksiy

On 11.04.18 08:27, Jo wrote:
> derbies -> debris
>
> Oleksiy's attention was drawn to that airport because of the tragic 
> fatality. He noticed the tower was not mapped, so he mapped it.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jo
>
> 2018-04-11 8:17 GMT+02:00 Milo van der Linden <milo at dogodigi.net 
> <mailto:milo at dogodigi.net>>:
>
>     Dear Armstrong, please be aware that Oleksiy is no native english
>     speaker. In his culture and language that is probably not what he
>     is saying.
>
>     Kind regards,
>
>     Milo van der Linden
>
>     On April 11, 2018 3:21:17 AM GMT+02:00, "Jack Armstrong
>     Dancer at sprynet.com <mailto:Dancer at sprynet.com>"
>     <jacknstacy at sprynet.com <mailto:jacknstacy at sprynet.com>> wrote:
>
>         Are you saying you think an aviation accident could have been
>         avoided if OSM data was better? I've been an air traffic
>         controller for 38 years. Aviation hazards, such as towers at
>         airports, are well charted on navigational charts and airport
>         diagrams which pilots are required to use. A pilot would never
>         use OSM as a means of avoiding ground hazards at an airport.
>         Besides, this particular accident happened at 10:00 A.M. local
>         time, meaning it was daylight. The vast majority of aviation
>         accidents are the result of pilot error. If a helicopter pilot
>         allows his rotor blades to collide with a clearly visible
>         object, that is negligence on the captain's part.
>         -----Original Message-----
>
>             From: Oleksiy Muzalyev <oleksiy.muzalyev at bluewin.ch
>             <mailto:oleksiy.muzalyev at bluewin.ch>> Sent: Apr 10, 2018
>             3:44 PM To: Talk Openstreetmap <talk at openstreetmap.org
>             <mailto:talk at openstreetmap.org>> Subject: [OSM-talk]
>             today's tragic helicopter accident in Bavaria Good
>             evening, There was an helicopter accident at the airport
>             Flugplatz HaƟfurt-Schweinfurt. One man from the ground
>             staff was killed by derbies when helicopter's propeller
>             blades touched the control tower. On the news video [1]
>             and on the aerial image of the airport [2] it is clearly
>             visible that the tower building is not in the same row
>             with other buildings, it is a bit outstanding. This tower
>             was not mapped neither on the Google maps, nor on the OSM.
>             I mapped it by now on the OSM:
>             https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/50.01720/10.52705
>             <https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/50.01720/10.52705>
>             with the tag: tower:type=aircraft_control, which has got a
>             nice map icon. In general, towers, not only
>             aircraft_control, but also communication, and others, are
>             well visible even from far away, and could serve as good
>             landmarks. That is why it makes sense to map towers. [1]
>             https://rtlnext.rtl.de/cms/bundeswehr-hubschrauber-rammt-tower-flughafenmitarbeiter-von-truemmern-erschlagen-4148088.html
>             <https://rtlnext.rtl.de/cms/bundeswehr-hubschrauber-rammt-tower-flughafenmitarbeiter-von-truemmern-erschlagen-4148088.html>
>             [2]
>             https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flugplatz_Ha%C3%9Ffurt-Schweinfurt#/media/File:Flugplatz_Ha%C3%9Ffurt_Schweinfurt.jpg
>             <https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flugplatz_Ha%C3%9Ffurt-Schweinfurt#/media/File:Flugplatz_Ha%C3%9Ffurt_Schweinfurt.jpg>
>             With best regards, Oleksiy
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