[OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber

Edoardo Yossef Marascalchi e.marascalchi at gmail.com
Thu Aug 23 06:25:23 UTC 2018


in Israel a boulding on a corner between 2 streets have 2 addreses, one for
each street (or even 3 or more...).
the local authority register the building just on one of the possible
addresses for tax purposes but all of them are valid and usable.
the more, each if them have a distinct 7digit zip code

in italy, in some cities, each shop facing the street have a distinct house
number from the building main entrace (i.e. building is 17 shops are 17/a
17/b.. and a shop spanning more windows could have more than one of them)

in venice house numbers are unrelated to the street name but to the
neghboorhood (sestriere).

in some mountain community, detached houses (maso) sometimes didn't have a
house number nor a street name and are referred just by the family name

so, the address uniqueness is just a state of mind but we (all of us, i'm
not a royal) need to find a way to represent them in a database, something
very little flexible.

stop arguing about uniqueness and start offering solutions.
even it there will be duplicate addresses worls won't collapse.
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Hi Christoph,


> You probably have to give a real world example since i have no idea if
> you want to say you have a building with a unique address consisting of
> addr:street and addr:postcode (could be if there is only one building
> at this street or with this postcode) or if you want to defend
> pointless or non-verifiable tagging of addr:street for buildings
> without a unique address.

An example from Germany:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/526129541
https://www.izb.fraunhofer.de/de/impressum.html

The whole campus just fills up the complete street. Hence, the street
alone makes it already unique. I can confirm from having worked there
that it has indeed no housenumber.

Best regards,
Roland
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Il gio 23 ago 2018, 5:50 AM Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> On 23/08/18 11:08, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> >
> > sent from a phone
> >
> >> On 22. Aug 2018, at 22:28, Christoph Hormann <osm at imagico.de> wrote:
> >>
> >> Specifying addr:street on a building that does not have an address is
> >> either pointless or non-verifiable.
> >
> > as I explained above, we don’t add address tags to buildings in general,
> we add them to entrances and pois.
>
> The royal 'we'?
>
> Address tags are added to buildings.
> Generally these building have no entrances in OSM.
> Even where hte building has an entrance or two .. the building still
> generally has the address.
>
> Where no building exists in OSM then addresses are generally nodes with no
> other feature.
>
> That looks to be the practice around me. And it will probably continue to
> be the practice.
>
>
>
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