[OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

Grant Slater openstreetmap at firefishy.com
Sun Feb 18 19:40:24 UTC 2018

On 18 February 2018 at 19:07, Jason Remillard <remillard.jason at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Grant,
> If you read Serge's post, he is quite clear on what his preferred
> solution to this resourcing problem. Our tiles and Nominatim services
> should have terms of services that include paid higher levels that
> support the foundation, which in turn pays for the infrastructure.
> When somebody is using too many tiles, or using too much of Nominatim
> resources, or wants Nominatim to work better, etc, before chasing them
> away, the foundation should ask them for money to support the
> requested services.

OpenStreetMap.org services are abused precisely because the are 1)
Free to use, 2) they are open to use (no keys etc) and 3) for most
part we don't actually limits the usage of the services (There isn't
actually a 5% cap on tiles).
I'd feel uncomfortable with an Open Data project charging for services.

I'm a reasonably good sysadmin, but people smarter than me need to
decide on the direction of the project. ;-)

Interesting parallel discussion thread going on on twitter, maybe OSMF
should be "willing to pay a developer a market-rate salary to own this
problem" using some of the Pineapple Fund donation:
Jumping off point: https://twitter.com/richardf/status/965301288933175296

I'd be all for that.

> There is plenty of money around this space to pay for a full time
> system administrator staff and some developers. Pokémon Go netted 600
> million dollars in the first three months. Mapbox just go $164 million
> dollar investment. I don't understand why you, Tom, lonvia are not
> paid, full time employees of OSMF by now. Mapbox is doing a great job
> with ID development, but obviously they are not going to seriously
> fund our tiles and geocoding.

Small steps and iterating sounds like a healthier option to me.

> There is a great need for what OSM does, we just need to ask for
> money, rather than acting like a charity, begging for handouts.

Let's Encrypt is a "charity" and is "begging for handouts", but is
clearly winning and has massively moved the internet forward in the
last 2 years. I don't think OpenStreetMap needs to become a commercial
project to survive.

Kind regards,


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