[OSM-talk] Using Wikipedia to add names in other languages
Mateusz Konieczny
matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Sat May 5 13:39:37 UTC 2018
5. May 2018 14:55 by dieterdreist at gmail.com <mailto:dieterdreist at gmail.com>:
> sent from a phone
>
>> On 5. May 2018, at 14:28, Mateusz Konieczny <>> matkoniecz at tutanota.com <mailto:matkoniecz at tutanota.com>>> > wrote:
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>> (and no, Wikidata is not better - it includes data from Wikipedia and entire
>> databases protected by sui generis database right so it is even worse as far as
>> copyright goes)
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> I’ve read this several times now, but find it to be an over cautious interpretation of the situation. Wikidata is published in cc0, everyone contributing to it knows it. If some years ago wikimedia’s legal department has analyzed the situation and concluded that they could import facts from wikipedia into a cc0 db, why would we not trust them?
sui generis database right is not existing in USA. It is existing in EU, including UK.
Also, AFAIK OSM and Wikipedia has a bit different approach to how copyright is interpreted
> Copyright doesn’t protect facts, ie ccbysa does so neither. Wikidata is containing only facts.
OSM also contains only facts. It does not mean that OSM may be freely copied and used without restrictions.
> WRT to database rights in the EU, I don’t think there can be a case between wikidata and wikipedia, and even if there was I am confident it would be settled.
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So - is it OK to:
- copy location data from Google into a Wikipedia article
(considered OK and encouraged on Wikipedia)
- import this location data to Wikidata (routinely done by bots)
- and then import this data into OSM
How copying location data[1] from Google Maps (or other source) via Wikipedia and Wikidata differs
from direct copying from Google maps from legal point of view?
[1] of lets say museums
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