[OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

Michael Reichert osm-ml at michreichert.de
Sun Sep 23 12:05:42 UTC 2018


Hi Yuri,

Am 18.09.18 um 11:30 schrieb Yuri Astrakhan:
> as of today, OSM Wiki can store structured tag metadata similar to
> Wikidata.  In every possible language, cross-linked, with images,
> validation rules, or anything else the community decides to store there.
> See examples:
> 
> Key:bridge:movable:    https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q104
> Tag:bridge:movable=bascule:   https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q888
> 
> I have imported most frequent Keys from the TagInfo, plus parsed wiki pages
> to try to get multilingual descriptions, images, etc.  Our next step is to
> add more descriptive properties, translations, validations(?), better
> images. The structured data is accessible via Lua (our new templating
> language), so at some point we may want to replace info cards and tables(?)
> with the automatically generated ones.
> 
> Help is needed: our wiki is large and multilingual. If you can help,
> especially if you can run a wiki bot to automate some data parsing and
> wikibase item creation, please reply. When editing, please do not change or
> translate the "label" field. Only use description field for the translation
> efforts, add statements, etc. If you need new properties, please write at
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap_talk:Wikibase

Have you considered the side effects of this change?

Currently, the search of the wiki is not really useful any more. If I
search for any page and type the correct page title, the autocompletion
only returns Wikidata based results but no page titles. IMHO, this is
more harmful than the absence of structured data on the wiki which could
be stored outside the wiki as well.

I suspect that the attempts for more structured metadata won't be really
accepted by the community (the editors of the wiki). I don't find
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap:Wikibase really
helpful to understand what to do and how to do it. Is there any better
explanation on the wiki?

TBH, if I were an editor developer, I would neither take regular
expressions for validation rules nor all my presets from the wiki. The
wiki can be edited by everyone. There are a lot people whose hobby is to
edit the wiki to make it represent how they expect OSM and the usage of
tags to be [1].

Best regards

Michael


[1] I did that in some cases in the past, too.

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