[OSM-talk] We're erasing our history in wiki

Ilya Zverev ilya at zverev.info
Mon Apr 22 09:59:04 UTC 2019

This attitude: “to do well we would need people responsible and there isn’t any; you can do your thing without OSM infrastructure so why bother; nobody died, stop your hype and comply” — is why we’re still with API 0.6 ten years after it was introduced.


> On 22 Apr 2019, at 09:35, Jochen Topf <jochen at remote.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 12:03:40AM +0300, Ilya Zverev wrote:
>> In my research of API 0.6 (which turned ten years old yesterday) I've
>> stumbled on this page:
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.6/Crowd_sourced_Testing
>> It was deleted 7 years ago. And this is a disaster. The page was an
>> important milestone in our history: authors, dates, items on it could bring
>> some more information on how our current API was rolled out. Nothing is
>> left.
> It was deleted an yet you have found it. So not a huge desaster after
> all.
>> Please, could we have a deletion policy in our wiki that clearly states "No
>> obsolete pages here", forbidding deletion of anything except spam or
>> otherwise harmful pages? Deleting our history is plain vandalism, no better
>> than physically destroying pieces of human history displayed in museums.
> Isn't that a bit of hype here...
>> It's not like we're pressed for disk space there.
> No, we aren't. But we are pressed for time and human attention. Of we
> had curators who keep important things organized and findable we could
> keep things forever. But as it is, all the obsolete crap keeps us from
> finding and working with what we need now.
>> Thank internet gods for the Internet Archive,
> Not the gods but some good people who had a good idea. Let them do their
> job and keep the history and lets do our job and keep the momentum in
> the project instead of spending our time looking back.
> Jochen
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> Jochen Topf  jochen at remote.org  https://www.jochentopf.com/  +49-351-31778688

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