[OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

Fri Dec 27 23:37:22 UTC 2019

HI Folks,

I also generally point folks at this page which is pretty specific (if they are using Mapbox tiles)

https://docs.mapbox.com/help/how-mapbox-works/attribution/

Cheers - Phil

From: Nuno Caldeira <nunocapelocaldeira at gmail.com> 
Sent: Saturday, 28 December 2019 9:00 AM
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Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

After i contacted the company ACCIONA MOBILITY they finally added attribution on the app. and it's a new style, vertical. again plenty of space for Mapbox logo. Maybe we should add vertical attribution on the attribution guidance. check print here https://ibb.co/xLYrP3m

On 25/12/2019 19:17, Nuno Caldeira wrote:

doesn't surprise me. check this https://docs.mapbox.com/mapbox-gl-js/example/attribution-position/ plenty of space for visible attribution, well mapbox attribution is not hidden under an "i". I have reported another client of theirs that I have reached out to ask for attribution, which they understood, but still haven't fixed it. let's see if mapbox is in good will. 

On Wed, 25 Dec 2019, 17:20 · Michael Medina, <recycleoregon at gmail.com <mailto:recycleoregon at gmail.com> > wrote:

As a native English speaker this reads as complete stonewalling on Mapbox’s part. I don’t know why OSM doesn’t just file a DMCA complaint against Mapbox or deny them access. The OSM board should also not have to go through the regular help channel to get answers. Mapbox should escalate this issue to their top administrators.  I know the board likes to play nice, but Mapbox isn’t playing nice so no reason to as far as I can tell. 

Michael Medina 

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Hi Mateusz,

They don't. Here's all my email exchange with them from October 2018, 
yes _*2018*_. it's more than enough with evidence and time to be fixed. 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/110XubCe0kd2HNtbqXS7U_vr44xyieaSt/view?usp=sharing

On 24/12/2019 07:08, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
> Have they responded with anything
> (except automatic reply) ?
>
> Is there an assigned issue id?
>
>
> 23 Dec 2019, 21:32 by nunocapelocaldeira at gmail.com <mailto:nunocapelocaldeira at gmail.com> :
>
>     I sent this situation to Mapbox 10 months ago.
>
>     On Mon, 23 Dec 2019, 17:00 joost schouppe,
>     <joost.schouppe at gmail.com <mailto:joost.schouppe at gmail.com>  <mailto:joost.schouppe at gmail.com <mailto:joost.schouppe at gmail.com> >> wrote:
>
>
>             As an xmas bonus, here's another Facebook company (via
>             Mapbox), Snapchat that is using OSM without attribution
>             requirements (funnily there's plenty of space for a
>             reasonable and visible calculated mapbox logo and text).
>             They probably don't know, nor that they have been asked to
>             comply over a year ago, nor have agreed with the license
>             in every aspect of it when stated using OSM data, nor read
>             Mapbox TOS, or Mapbox been informed on these repeated
>             offenders, nor read the multiples reports in mailing
>             lists, nor that they had a employee that ran for OSMF board.
>
>             https://map.snapchat.com/
>
>             Let's continue to be hypocrites and pretend nothing is
>             going on for over a year with these two companies that are
>             corporate members of OSMF and should be the first ones to
>             give examples. Enough with excuses.
>
>
>         The Snapchat case is a pretty clear example of how not to do
>         things. If there's space for Mapbox, there's space for
>         OpenStreetMap. But I don't think Snapchat has anything to do
>         with Facebook.
>
>         Phil, I hope you contacted them directly and not through Facebook.
>
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