[OSM-talk] Reordering and rewriting Good Practice wiki page

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the bing imagery is from 2016, but i live where i map.
 
From: Joseph Eisenberg
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 10:08 PM
To: Yves
Cc: osm
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Reordering and rewriting Good Practice wiki 
page
 
I've 
finished the new detailed page "Keep the History"

And so I've removed the 
two paragraphs about specific JOSM plugins and
a way to move a node to a new 
area from the Good_practice page - they
are on the new page which is 
linked

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Keep_the_history

I 
would also like to move "Check the history of important objects" to
the new 
page, since I think it is redundant on Good practice where
it's mentioned in 
"Do not trace from outdated imagery"

But I'm still waiting to hear back 
from the original author who added
this section 
at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Good_practice#Section:_.22Check_the_history_of_important_objects.22 :

Joseph

On 
7/4/19, Joseph Eisenberg < joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com > wrote:
> As 
mentioned, I plan to significantly shorten the "Keep the history"
> 
section, with a link to the longer version at
>  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Keep_the_history instead.
>
> I 
would probably support shortening the page even further, but I've
> 
already had several edits reverted by other users who are in favor of
> 
including various sections.
>
> On 7/4/19, Yves 
< yvecai at mailbox.org > wrote:
>> Hmm... I would be all in favor of 
extending the See also... section and
>> shorten drastically the page 
to keep it simple.
>> Some of the good practices there are second 
order, don't you think?
>> Keeping history compared to Tag for the 
renderer, for example.
>> Yves
>>
>> Le 4 juillet 
2019 05:53:23 GMT+02:00, Joseph Eisenberg
>> 
< joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com > a écrit :
>>>I've reordered and 
reworded several sections of the Good practice
>>>page:  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice
>>>
>>>The 
page had grown over the years from 6 or 7 initial 
sections:
>>>(First verion of page in 
2008
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Good_practice&oldid=86242 )
>>>
>>>1) 
Don't map for the renderer
>>>2) One feature, one 
OSM-object
>>>3) Keep straight ways straight
>>>4) Map 
what's on the ground
>>>5)a) Don't remove tags you don't 
understand
>>>   b) Document your 
custom-tags
>>>6) Do correct 
errors
>>>
>>>Now there were 22 different sections, 
several added this past year
>>>without discussion, and they were 
not 
organized:
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Good_practice&oldid=1861565
>>>
>>>I've 
reordered and categorized these sections under 7 main 
headings:
>>>
>>>1 Do correct errors
>>>2 
Verifiability (+Map what's on the ground, Don't map: 
historic
>>>events, temporary features, local legislation 
etc)
>>>3 Don't map for the renderer (+ Don't misuse name 
tag)
>>>4 Good changeset comments (+Keep the 
history)
>>>5 One feature, one OSM element
>>>6 Editing 
Standards: (Align aerial imagery before tracing, Do not
>>>trace 
from outdated imagery... Keep straight ways straight ... 
Mark
>>>estimations with FIXME ... etc.)
>>>7 Document 
your custom-tags (Don't remove tags that you 
don't
>>>understand...
>>>
>>>I've made some 
wording changes for more consistent and concise style,
>>>and 
removed some examples (eg abandoned 
railways)
>>>
>>>I've removed 2 sections added in the 
past year:
>>>
>>>"Don't map insignificant, perishable 
and mobile objects"
>>>- this section duplicated information in the 
exiting heading about
>>>temporary 
features
>>>
>>>"Don't censor anything existing in 
reality for any reason. Avoid
>>>interpolations if there is 
sufficient imagery."
>>>- This seems redundant and the part about 
censoring data isn't
>>>completely correct. We don't add personal 
info about who lives in a
>>>private house, for 
example.
>>>
>>>While I haven't done this yet, I would 
also recommend moving the long
>>>details about "Keep the history", 
involving how to use specific
>>>editors and checking history in 
certain editors, along with the
>>>section "Check the history of 
important objects" which duplicates
>>>advice in the Aerial Imagery 
section, to a new page, with a 
link:
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Keep_the_history
>>>
>>>Joseph 
Eisenberg, 
User:Jeisenbe
>>>
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mailing 
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>>
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