[OSM-talk] Metropolitan France : what todo with all "supossed to be wrong" name:xx ?

[marc marc]

Hello,

Just look at the 2 relation to understand that they are 2 different 
things with a difference in thousands of kilometers
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2202162
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1403916

I don't know which country you live in, but the administrative details 
of your country may be unknown to me.
and there are probably many administrative entities in your country that 
do not have a name in french. However, it would not occur to me to copy 
the name of the country on it with the only logic that they have 6 
identical letters out of 21 in your local language.

Regards,
Marc

Le 19.11.19 à 16:40, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson a écrit :
> Not all languages make, or care about making, a distinction of France (including non-Europe) and France (only Europe).
> 
> This is an administrative detail which has no relevance for most of us, even if we are frequent visitors in France and love it (me!).
> 
> Thus our languages do not differentiate between the two.
> 
> Icelandic for example does not care about the distinction so far, although Meginlandsfrakkland (one word) or Meginlands-Frakkland could be possible candidates if we'd need to.
> 
> In the left sidebar on Wikipedia you can see which languages do have this concept covered: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_France
> 
> 
> --
> Jói / Stalfur
> 
> 
> 19. nóvember 2019 kl. 15:11, skrifaði "marc marc" <marc_marc_irc at hotmail.com>:
> 
>> Hello,
>>
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1403916
>> once again, one contributor confused France and Metropolitan France (the
>> part of France located on the european continent as opposed to the
>> so-called "overseas" territories).
>> This time, the contributor also modified the set of names that was
>> correct (name ca de fr it nl oc) causing a malfunction of the tools
>> using it.
>> The incorrect modification has been reverted. but the question arises
>> as to what to do with the other names:xx :
>> - 19 name:xx contain 2 words and therefore seem correct.
>> - ~222 name:xx have no space
>> -- those using the latin script are therefore probably false since the
>> presence of a single word is probably enough to detect the error.
>> is it better to delete them ? or some languages may have only one word
>> for "Metropolitan France" ?
>> or delete only if if the same value for France ?
>> but some translations (e. g. into Esperanto) have in the meantime been
>> modified on a single object, it is impossible for me to say if the
>> difference is a typo or if it is due to "metropolitan".
>> -- I'm unable to detect an error in the name:xx in Cyrillic script,
>> Arabic alphabet, Gojūon, .. can anyone ?
>>
>> the problem being that many contributors make blind translations,
>> without looking at the object, thus duplicate an error from one language
>> to another.
>> Keeping names:xx that we assume are false risk so in the end
>> to be worse than losing a correct name:xx
>> But it is not the logic of osm to delete/do it again when there is too
>> great a risk of error
>>
>> thanks,
>> Marc
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