[OSM-talk] Birthplace of artist - how to map with Wikidata?

Imre Samu pella.samu at gmail.com
Wed Sep 25 11:30:36 UTC 2019


> ... I wanted to express "person P was born in building B" in Wikidata,

imho: my proposal for example for "Haydn's birthplace"

one tag for a memorial

historic=memorial
memorial=plaque
name=.....
subject:wikidata=Q7349    ( https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7349  Joseph
Haydn )  it is an extra;  but useful for some programs.


and another tag for the building.

building=....
wikidata=Q1375165           ( https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1375165 Haydn's
birthplace )


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there is a https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q19979289

*"building where someone was deemed to be born, not a hospital. Add this in
P31 in addition to properties about the architecture or function of the
building. If it's the actual place of birth of the person, add the house in
P19 of the person's item"*


searching for examples  ( instances of Q19979289 )   with "wdtaxonomy -i
Q19979289"   [1]    for creating similar wikidata items
 -Haydn's birthplace (Q1375165)
 -birthplace of Franz Liszt (Q1445881)
 -birth house of Jean-François Millet (Q3280233)
 -birth house of Joan of Arc (Q3280236)     (
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/161619115 )
 -birthplace of Leonardo da Vinci (Q3280239)
 -birthhouse of Victor Hugo (Q3280244)
 -Mozart's birthplace (Q3327039)       (
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/265024462 )
 -birthplace of Ronald Reagan (Q4917087)
 -Bashō's birth house (Q11614939)
 -birth house of Bedřich Smetana (Q12049583)
 -birthplace of Adlai E. Stevenson II (Q14681610)
 -birth house of Blas de Lezo (Q20492856)
 -birth house of Franz Schubert (Q28653671)
 -birth house of Antonín Dvořák (Q29018403)
 -Bob Marley birthplace in Nine Mile (Q61745553)
- ....

[1] https://github.com/nichtich/wikidata-taxonomy

Imre


James <james2432 at gmail.com> ezt írta (időpont: 2019. szept. 25., Sze,
12:03):

> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:memorial%3Dplaque
>
> historic=memorial
> memorial=plaque
> name=[what ever the plaque says]
>
> On Wed., Sep. 25, 2019, 5:56 a.m. Frederik Ramm, <frederik at remote.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I passed a building today that had a plaque saying that a famous writer
>> was born there ("on the first floor of this house") in 1901.
>>
>> I could add a note to the building in OSM (but that would not be machine
>> readable), or I could add a separate object for the plaque, again with a
>> note tag. But I think that this particular information is perhaps a bit
>> too much for OSM. Perhaps it would be better to model this in Wikidata.
>>
>> But how? The building itself is nothing of note. I guess that if I
>> wanted to express "person P was born in building B" in Wikidata, I would
>> have to create a representation of B in Wikidata, and could *then* link
>> to B in Wikidata from the OSM building. But this item representing B in
>> wikidata would be totally featureless (linked FROM osm, and linked FROM
>> from the author's entry, but not itself linking anywhere, nor having any
>> properties other than "is a building"). Is that even possible, or would
>> it quickly be deleted in wikidata as not making sense on its own?
>>
>> Bye
>> Frederik
>>
>> --
>> Frederik Ramm  ##  eMail frederik at remote.org  ##  N49°00'09" E008°23'33"
>>
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