[OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 188, Issue 19

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> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 01:12:19 +0200
> From: François Lacombe <fl.infosreseaux at gmail.com>
> To: osm-talk <talk at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re[2]: Tag:manhole=telecom
>
>
> Given problem is you argue with pictures showing what is under the cap.
> On the tag page picture - and on the ground - we can't say what is under
> and if a man can't get down a ladder into a room.
>
> I think all this stuff would require a formal proposal to discuss about
> vocabulary and have opinions of several people.
> We need standard definitions more than legal actually.
>
> All the best
>
> Le lun. 20 avr. 2020 à 01:02, <80hnhtv4agou at bk.ru> a écrit :
>
>> I am trying to say the tag page is wrong,
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:manhole=telecom
>> the picture is a fiber optics splice enclosure not a manhole
>>
>> https://www.multicominc.com/product/pencell-pem-2436-24x36x24-buried-cable-enclosure/
>> https://www.thefoa.org/tech/ref/install/Microtrenching/Pages/25.html
>> https://www.thefoa.org/tech/ref/appln/Prefab-underground.jpg
>>
>> this is a fiber splice manhole,
>>
>> https://www.jensenprecast.com/AT-T-Northern-California-a840/Telecom-Utility-Structures/Manholes-p14890/AT-T-4-x4-x4-fiber-optic-Intercept-Manhole-Page-1-of-2-d2315.pdf
>>
>> can we change the picture or put both on the same page with the legal
>> industry names.
>> https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/manhole
>> ( a man goes into the hole) [manhole]
>>
>>
>> [...]

I have to argue with the Lexico definition of a manhole.  I worked in 
the highway construction industry in the United States for 14 years, and 
in the industry the word "manhole" refers to the entire underground 
chamber that sewers are connected to.  We referred to the access on the 
top as a "manhole cover."

Mark