[OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Funding of iD Development and Maintenance

Jo winfixit at gmail.com
Sun Aug 2 14:34:23 UTC 2020

The way I read this, is that there is money that will be used toward
advancing the 3 projects and funding is being sought to finance continued
development of iD. So I'd say there is a difference.

I take it all as good news. Of course, I would also like to see some
financial support for JOSM and Vespucci, but one can only spend each
euro/dollar/pound once, so choices must be made.


On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 2:53 PM JB <jbosm at mailoo.org> wrote:

> So, with sarcasm (at least half-)on, and english not being my
> mothertongue: the osm2pgsql/Nomatim/Potlatch grants were just Troyan
> horses to enable the OSMF funding of (ex or not ex?) Mapbox developer,
> with contributors not screaming too loudly? And explaining the iD
> conflict resolution process that was proposed lately (and, surprise,
> accepted by Mapbox iD developers)?
> Much thanks to the iD developers for having kept long, trustful and
> peaceful relationships with the community over the years of iD development.
> Just saying out loud what some people may or may not think, but would
> not dare to write. It does not expect answers.
> JB.
> Le 02/08/2020 à 13:44, Mikel Maron a écrit :
> > Hello
> >
> > The OSMF board is working to make OSM's core software and infrastructure
> more stable and sustainable by supporting paid roles for priority needs,
> such as the Senior Site Reliability role (
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2020-July/006973.html),
> and the pilot to fund "OSM Infrastructure" projects (
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2020-August/006987.html
> ).
> >
> > As part of this focus, we want to organise coordinated funding to
> support continued maintenance and development of the iD editor, as iD's
> strong continuous development over the past several years has served the
> OSM community well. Quincy Morgan is iD's maintainer and lead developer.
> Unfortunately, full-time support of his work recently ended. He'd very much
> like to continue, and the OSMF Board wants to see that happen. He has
> written up this proposal (
> https://github.com/quincylvania/quincylvania.com/blob/main/resources/Morgan%20iD%20work%20proposal%207_27.pdf)
> with his ideal plans for iD over the next year, along with notes about how
> he'll organise, grow the developer base, communicate, and set priorities,
> and make iD better. The final priorities for the year will be made in
> consultation with the community.
> >
> > To help fund this project, as well as the SSRE role, we're looking at
> earmarked donations from companies, chapters and organisations.
> Administratively, we believe this is easier than other methods of pooled
> funding, as the OSMF is already in most companies' procurement systems, and
> it would limit paperwork to one contract for iD. Initial contract would be
> for 1 year, and that's what the OSMF would look to raise now.
> >
> > With the OSMF holding the contract, the Board would take a key
> accountability role, reviewing work done on the contract and assessing
> progress on the plans Quincy develops for the project. Additionally, the
> OSMF is working in cooperation with Quincy to establish a formal appeal
> process (
> https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2020/06/08/toward-resolution-of-controversies-related-to-id/)
> for the relatively rare community issues iD cannot resolve itself.
> >
> > The OSMF would not see its role as a traditional "boss", instructing iD
> to focus on this or that feature. We would not be prescriptive about
> priorities. This does not mean work in a vacuum. Our expectation is that
> Quincy, in addition to following our hiring framework's principles for
> transparent service to the community, would regularly convene stakeholders
> from the community to share their priorities and feedback. Quincy would
> assess all priorities holistically as he decides on a workable plan for the
> project.
> >
> > Over the course of the year, we'll evaluate and learn from how the
> arrangement is working for all, as we look towards year 2 and beyond. For
> future years, we are looking at developing an overall plan for long-term
> support for all parts of the OSMF infrastructure. We want to be able to
> offer similar support to other OSM editors. Our early focus on iD is to
> ensure continued development.
> >
> > We want to find out what you, the OSM community, think. Do you have any
> feedback?
> >
> > If you know of an organisation that might want to fund this, please feel
> free to ask them to contact the OSMF Board.
> >
> > -Mikel, for the OSMF Board
> >
> > * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
> >
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