[OSM-talk] This needs to be voted upon.

Maarten Deen mdeen at xs4all.nl
Mon Aug 10 06:57:47 UTC 2020


I also don't want to imply that a vote is imminent, just that this is 
such a big issue, it can not be decided by mere consensus on a 
mailinglist. Not everyone follows these discussions (not that everyone 
reads the wiki though, but again, this is a major thing).

Regards,
Maarten

On 2020-08-10 08:06, stevea wrote:
> I didn't mean to convey or imply that a vote was impending, moreso
> that I seriously disagree with the proposal as unneeded, unnecessary,
> poorly explained as to its benefits, and (as was well described
> before, though I paraphrase), "a ready-made answer for a non-problem."
>  My apologies if anybody got the wrong impression that this was up for
> a vote.  Rather, here and now it is being discussed, my "No" was
> merely my opinion IF it went to a vote.  Better stated, I disagree
> with the proposal, as I see no need for it, it is over-engineered, it
> has no clear merit, it is confusing, it seems to be more trouble than
> it is worth and I feel it would chase away novice volunteers as "too
> complex."  The consensus, with the exception of the proposer, seems
> 100% in line with my opinions.  I do welcome more discussion, that's
> why we type here.
> 
> SteveA
> 
>> On Aug 9, 2020, at 11:01 PM, Mateusz Konieczny via talk 
>> <talk at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>> 
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>> Aug 10, 2020, 07:49 by mdeen at xs4all.nl:
>> On 2020-08-10 03:32, stevea wrote:
>> On Aug 9, 2020, at 5:29 AM, pangoSE <pangose at riseup.net> wrote:
>> The discussion below spawned the following idea of migrating the whole 
>> tags system instead.
>> (an over engineered proposal largely, as Frederick says and I agree
>> with, goosed by the "hype of linked data.")
>> 
>> I politely vote "No." I don't see the merit (again echoing
>> Frederick). While I'm only one person and one vote and perhaps a bit
>> more vocal than most, I feel it important to express the opinion of
>> "very strongly against."
>> 
>> I certainly hope that if this idea goes towards implementation that 
>> there will be a vote first. I also don't see the merits so my vote 
>> will also be no.
>> Before going to vote it would need to demonstrate some sort of clear 
>> benefit and
>> consensus that it is reasonable.
>> 
>> Vote can be gamed in many ways, and even if that proposal somehow 
>> would won a vote
>> it still would not improve it a tiny bit.
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