[OSM-talk] OTG rule, borders & mountains existing | Re: Crimea situation - on the ground

[Hartmut Holzgraefe]

On 08.02.20 11:58, Rory McCann wrote:
> On 07.02.20 20:12, stevea wrote:
>> A well-known example is (national, other) boundaries, which
>> frequently do not exist "on the ground,"
> National borders don't exist on the ground? huh? Have you ever actually
> _crossed_ an international border? I assure you they exist on the
> ground. From large infrastructure, to changes in the paint colour on
> roads, one can nearly always *see* where a border is.


might be easy to forget what borders can look like when being in a 
"Schengen"
country, especially if it is completely surrounded by other Schengen 
states. E.g. I once drove from Belgium to France by accident, and as it 
was in a very rural area it took a while until I finally noticed I had
missed some turn earlier on.

But even then, on the major roads it is hard to miss that you just 
entered a different country. You can't deduct the exact border line
by the centimeter by such observations, but you will usually be right
within less than a kilometer if you interpolate from those clearly
marked crossing points.

Disputed areas are usually much wider than that, and I'm pretty sure you
will notice when getting to what Russia thinks the current border line
is, and try to cross?