[OSM-talk] IME no proposals needed | Re: Creation of "Data Items" by bot for undocumented tags

[Joseph Eisenberg]

> I have occasionally moved such pages into the user's name space when I
found them to (by content, if not by name) to be proposals for
something, rather than a documentation of something already established.

That is fine if the tag has not been used, and the page is written
like a proposal suggestion. But if the user just wants to tag a dozen
widgets as Tag:amenity=widget, it is fine to leave the Tag page in
place, and then add information as needed like "See Also the more
common tag landuse=widget which has a similar meaning", or "Some other
mappers have used this tag in a different way, with this differnet
meaning..." when necessary.

I personally check every new Tag: and Key: page (in English,
Indonesian or Spanish) every couple of weeks, and I suspect  Mateusz
Konieczny  and some other experienced wiki users also check the
Special:NewPages list frequently for the same reason. You can see that
many of the Tag: and Talk pages on
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:NewPages have been edited
by more than one user, even the ones that were made in the past month
or two.

This review effort is not yet happening for the Data Items, and since
there were >500 created by bot over Christmas (Dec 25-26th), I think
it's unlikely anyone has reviewed the recently created data items over
the past few months. Most are content-free (key=value is the only
property), but some probably need to be checked.

- Joseph Eisenberg

On 2/19/20, Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 19.02.20 07:33, Rory McCann wrote:
>> I don't know what your experience with the OSM wiki is, but I've created
>> new wiki pages for new tags, without bothering with proposal pages.
>
> I have occasionally moved such pages into the user's name space when I
> found them to (by content, if not by name) to be proposals for
> something, rather than a documentation of something already established.
> I felt that was ok since there's no rule against moving stuff into user
> name spaces ;)
>
> Anyway, I'm fine as long as we agree that data items shouldn't be
> created for tags that don't have a human-readable page, and
> human-readable pages should be created by humans not bots.
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>
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