[OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries
osm-ml at michreichert.de
Sun Jul 19 08:20:15 UTC 2020
Am 18/07/2020 um 21.51 schrieb Joseph Eisenberg:
> Do you have evidence that most of the surface tags added by this user are
Review results by westnordost
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> Here are some bad examples from Hamburg:
> * https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/206273110 is paved according to my aerial photo. grade5?
> * https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/771306038 is railway ballast.
> * https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/682991344 looks like grade2 to me.
> * https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/615485384 looks more like grade3.
> * https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/191452732 is grade one or grade two.
> But other changes are ok.
> But since so much is obviously totally wrong, I'm in favour of a
Review results by EinKonstanzer
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> Please do not reverse on principle and also no dogmatism of the kind.
> I have picked out random edits from the last 2 months and looked closely at them.
> - He has put in a "tracktype".
> - No position correction, and no other improvements.
> - And he uses the ID editor...
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/608668696 - grade3 could be there
> Czech Republic:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/308938930 - with Bing there is nothing to see, grade5 is no added value
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/758054333 - with Bing, Esri is absolutely not to be recognized, with Maxar can guess the lower part of the way
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/178772018 - Aerial photos are good, but in this case it is clairvoyance to the ground is probably sand.
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/207182973 - a track nearby that looks almost identical has a different tracktype. Why?
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/102969056 - a track in the forest. Even with the better Esri pictures there is no track to see!
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/370198123 - split the track, because sections are definitely different. For one part grade4 might be OK. For the other, grade5 at most.
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/134726358 - a big field. In the current aerial photos (Bing, Esri, Maxar) there is no track at all!
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/332757646 - the edge of a big meadow, where a tractor once drove along. No current track, and certainly not grade4
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/290360323 - On parts of the pictures a track is partially recognizable, on others there is no/hardly any way. grade5 is no added value there
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/826303189 - A large meadow where the tractor has cleared a path. If then grade5 but not grade4
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/203478714 - another track next door that looks like the same or bigger parts is grade3, this grade4. But they could all be grade2 as well...
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/294278418 - grade4. In my opinion rather grade2 or grade3. Position correction urgently needed. Well...
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/203478238 - See previous
> Conclusion: Revert and he should please stop that.
Mind that Modest7 used Bing imagery despite better imagery is available
in parts of Germany but not used by iD by default.
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