[OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

80hnhtv4agou at bk.ru 80hnhtv4agou at bk.ru
Sat Jun 13 16:23:28 UTC 2020


since the complainer removed the source (google map) do i remove the # as well ?

  
>Saturday, June 13, 2020 11:09 AM -05:00 from Mike Thompson <miketho16 at gmail.com>:
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>According to the Google Maps Terms of service, you cannot use it in any way to make another map. [0]  I would think that would include using its ruler if the purpose of using the ruler is to edit OSM.
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>[0] 2.d of  https://www.google.com/help/terms_maps/  
>On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 9:47 AM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us < talk-us at openstreetmap.org > wrote:
>>because i was asked to change my edit based on my own ruler measurement,
>> 
>>but it was just a ruler on google maps.
>>  
>>>Saturday, June 13, 2020 10:42 AM -05:00 from Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us < talk-us at openstreetmap.org >:
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>>>If you were not copying Google Maps then why you were using the ruler?
>>> 
>>>Why using ruler on Google Maps would be even necessary?
>>> 
>>>Jun 13, 2020, 17:31 by  talk at openstreetmap.org :
>>>>i put them as a source i used a ruler on there map.
>>>> 
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>>>>>Saturday, June 13, 2020 10:20 AM -05:00 from Mateusz Konieczny via talk < talk at openstreetmap.org >:
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>>>>>Jun 13, 2020, 16:59 by  eric.ladner at gmail.com :
>>>>>>Yeah, be careful with Google Maps.  It's owned and created by a company and if you copy from it and they can prove it, they could sue the OSM Foundation into oblivion.  They used to even have their OWN satellites to obtain imagery.  That's serious money.
>>>>>That is not the main problem. Main problem is that it goes our own fundamental rules.
>>>>>Mappers must not use other maps* even if whoever hold copyright is unable to sue for some reason.
>>>>> 
>>>>>And "they can prove it" part may be misleading - you are not allowed to copy even if you think that
>>>>>you can hide the copying so that noone will notice it.
>>>>> 
>>>>>*that is more complicated, we are must not copyrighted data on incompatible licenes -
>>>>>but if you are unsure what it means do not use other maps and ask for help before doing this
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>Typically, with local edits, I put "Local knowledge" as the source.  Sounds more highbrow than "my eyeballs". 
>>>>>I usually put survey/memory depending on how recent my data is.
>>>>>>IMO, if somebody is challenging one of your local edits, if they are not local also, they should be told as much and sent on their way - UNLESS it's something that relates to a mapping standard or best practice.  Then, learn from your mistakes and move on.
>>>>>+1
>>>>>>On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 9:32 AM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us < talk-us at openstreetmap.org > wrote:
>>>>>>>this was a tool on the map that measured distance.
>>>>>Have you copied that map? I am unsure how the distance measuring tool
>>>>>relates to "why are you telling me I can not use google as a map source"?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:29 AM -05:00 from Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us < talk-us at openstreetmap.org >:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>You are not allowed to use Google Maps as source.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>Have you used Google Maps to edit OSM?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>"since all the maps on OSM are old news like in my local area 7 months old."
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>FYI, world is larger than your local area.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>Jun 13, 2020, 16:08 by  talk-us at openstreetmap.org :
>>>>>>>>>If you people want me to prove my edit by adding a source, and a person from the data group as an editor,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>asks me to prove it, and i redo my edit and he does not get back to me, why are you telling me I can not use
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>google as a map source, since all the maps on OSM are old news. like in my local area 7 months old.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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