[OSM-talk] Remove Wikidata parameter from Infobox on wiki (ValueDescription, KeyDescription boxes)

Andrew Hain andrewhainosm at hotmail.co.uk
Sun May 3 17:22:32 UTC 2020


Getting rid of the search link is definitely a good idea, there are also links to artificial Wikidata items such as Q57977870 highway key in OpenStreetMap to consider.

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Andrew

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From: Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com>
Sent: 03 May 2020 17:10
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Subject: [OSM-talk] Remove Wikidata parameter from Infobox on wiki (ValueDescription, KeyDescription boxes)

I propose removing the "wikidata=" parameter from the descriptions of keys and tags on the OpenStreetMap wiki. See discussion:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template_talk:ValueDescription#Wikidata

"While it is sometimes possible to state that all OSM elements with that tag are an instance of some Wikidata item, it is not possible in other situations. For example, roads with bridge=yes crossing a man_made=bridge are not instances of "bridge". Furthermore, a lot of OSM tags don't represent an instance relationship with some class of objects at all, but are properties instead. So I doubt that mapping Wikidata onto OSM tags in that manner is feasible. --Tordanik 21:47, 1 September 2014 (UTC)"

"I don't think the "Wikidata" link adds anything useful for OSM mappers and I would be in favour of dropping it. Also, if there is no Wikidata link set, then currently the template displays a "search in Wikidata..." link which gives the whole "linked data" religion unnecessary prominence. The template has many optional parameters, and "wikidata" is the only parameter where, when it is missing, Wiki users are nudged in the direction of researching and adding it. This makes it look as if adding the "wikidata" parameter was a more valuable use of an editor's time than completing other missing bits of information. This is a value judgement that I oppose. --Frederik Ramm 16:02, 8 November 2018 (UTC)"

"Now we have our own Wikibase there’s another problem. The Wikidata link has a database link (Q number) that is different from the Q number in our own Wikibase instance. The WMF developers were very un-keen on Yuri’s suggestion of us using a different prefix letter to distinguish the two. Getting rid of the Wikidata parameter would solve this.--Andrew (talk) 06:26, 9 November 2018 (UTC)"

I've also noted that often the links are wrong, because a tag like "craft=*" is not the same as the wikidata definition of "crafts". You would need to link to several wikidata concepts to describe one OpenStreetMap tag in that case.

-- Joseph Eisenberg
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