[OSM-talk] Let's talk Attribution

Mateusz Konieczny matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Wed May 13 11:46:58 UTC 2020




May 13, 2020, 12:39 by simon at poole.ch:

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> Am 12.05.2020 um 23:03 schrieb Mateusz      Konieczny via talk:
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>> May 12, 2020, 05:48 by >> rockytvbr at gmail.com>> :
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>>> As Joseph said:
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>>>> The attribution goes on the map.
>>>> This is not a difficult requirement to meet.
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>>>> The most recent version of the guidelines
>>>> drafted by the LWG is almost there, but has drawn            community criticism
>>>> about being too generous especially w.r.t. initially            hidden attribution.
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>>> Is there anywhere I can share my two cents about the          guidelines?
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>> I commented on
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Draft_Attribution_Guideline
>> but I am unsure is it a good place because I got no reply.
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> Expecting a reply is unreasonable, taking the comments in to      account not (which we did).
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Allowing to hide attribution on mobile remained present in this proposal and AFAIK
it was one of primary reasons why Draft Attribution Guideline is staying as a draft for now
rather than being adopted.

(though I was participating in just some meetings on Mumble).

And it deserves an explanation why not showing attribution
is considered as ODBL compatible that requires to ensure that user is aware of data source
and license.

And, no, a typical user will not click on a hidden button or check deeply in settings.


>> One may also join online meeting of a Legal Working Group
>> and talk there.
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>> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licensing_Working_Group
>> "The group now meets every 2nd Thursday of the month, at        20:00 UTC, on >> Mumble <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mumble>>> , unless rescheduled."
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> As you know the LWG has handed the subject back to the board      months ago, not to mention that we provided ample time and venues      to provide input on the matter and that is long closed. Just      because somebody wasn't paying attention doesn't mean that you      restart a process when they turn up and feel they have a right to      their opinion being heard*.
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> Simon
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> * that was one of the main reasons the OSM licence change was      such a traumatic experience. 
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Well, in that case comments may be useful for next improved version or for a board.

There may be a better place to post them, but I am not aware about anything better.
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