[OSM-talk] Let's talk Attribution

Mateusz Konieczny matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Wed May 13 13:06:45 UTC 2020


Hidden button is explicitly allowed on mobile devices by the draft:

"In addition, mobile devices may have attribution after one interaction. 
Examples of one interaction include “one click,” such as an icon or 
link that opens a pop-up or new webpage, or a swipe, drag, pinch, etc."

from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Draft_Attribution_Guideline#Mobile_devices

That would misleadingly claim that hidden button (used by Mapbox and
FB and others on mobile devices) is acceptable and fulfills ODBL requirements.

See 
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/matkoniecz/illegal-use-of-OpenStreetMap/master/Mapbox/Mapbox_attributes_itself_2019-12-30.png
for an example in map with hidden button that would fulfill
"mobile devices may have attribution after one interaction".

This specific screenshot from mobile device (low budget smartphone)
also demonstrates that there for full-screen maps there is enough space
for a real attribution.

Though something smaller than logo and "Mapbox" repeated three times
would be also enough.

To repeat: normal user will NOT click on weir "i" button. This is effectively
not displaying attribution.

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More info about that specific case at
https://github.com/matkoniecz/illegal-use-of-OpenStreetMap/blob/master/Mapbox/Mapbox.md#mapbox-is-using-openstreetmap-data-illegally
(yes Mapbox was notified, yes Mapbox ignored it).

May 13, 2020, 14:33 by simon at poole.ch:

>
> Am 13.05.2020 um 13:46 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via talk:
> ...
>
>> And, no, a typical user will not click on a hidden button or check
>> deeply in settings.
>>
> ...
>
> Nobody ever even remotely indicated that attribution via a "hidden
> button" or deep in any settings was sufficient, in fact the draft
> guideline contained the opposite. Now I do realize the value of
> exaggeration as a rhetoric device, but, as obvious from this thread, it
> does confuse people as to what the actual facts are.
>
> Simon
>

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