[OSM-talk] Introducing SwiftAddress, an highly efficient way of collecting housenumbers

[Simon Poole]

Am 23.01.2021 um 15:19 schrieb Rory McCann:
> Oh there's nothing wrong with someone having fun. If you don't like it, I'm sure you can get a refund for what you paid for the software 😉
>
> I do keep hearing about these Vespucci features, have you considered making screencasts or videos demonstrating it? There's a good chance that people aren't using these features because they don't know how.

Vespucci is arguably the best documented OSM editor out there, that I'm 
not staging a daily marketing blitz for all the features that is has is 
probably welcome, particularly not for things that were added 7 years ago.

But since you asked: yes I've considered it. Doing a reasonable 
video/screencast is about a days work, so lets settle on 8 hours effort, 
the OSMFs going rate it values peoples time at seems to be ~$100, so 
$800, lets give a 50% OSM discount, so you are still asking me to spend 
$400 on something you think is a good idea, which however is likely 
going to be mostly ignored. Or are you suggesting that I do this "for 
the exposure"?

Simon

>
> On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 11:19, Simon Poole <simon at poole.ch> wrote:
>> I don't quite understand why, outside of a specialized keyboard, you
>> are reinventing the wheel (and fragmenting available development
>> resources, OK, I suppose that is one of the hallmarks of OSM
>> development which unluckily get rewarded time and time again). Vespucci:
>>
>> - allows you to directly enter address for upload, aka enter once, no
>> 2nd pass needed at home
>>
>> - automatically will download existing data (so that you don't
>> accidentally duplicate existing data)
>>
>> - can highlight missing tags, for example addresses
>>
>> - has all the background and overlay layers from ELI available
>>
>> - has address prediction that will automatically detect odd / even
>> address schemes and increment and is street side aware
>>
>> - allows you to configure which address tags should be set on addresses
>> (this tends to be a question of national preference)
>>
>> - handles addr:street and addr:place
>>
>> - seeds address tags values from existing data
>>
>> - and many other things like conflict resolution and so on.
>>
>> All since more than half a decade (actually 7 years).
>>
>> Yes, as said, it is true that it doesn't have a specialized keyboard,
>> but as you typically only have to type in a small number of numbers per
>> street, if any at all, the pain isn't really large enough to offset the
>> complexity caused by i18n support that would be required. But we even
>> have an issue for that
>> https://github.com/MarcusWolschon/osmeditor4android/issues/574 and if
>> somebody wants to put the effort (see i18n problems) a PR would be
>> gladly accepted.
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 22.01.2021 um 12:25 schrieb ipswichmapper--- via talk:
>>> Hello openstreetmap community,
>>>
>>> I have been writing an android application that should make it significantly easier to collect housenumbers.
>>>
>>> Now, finally, I have released an apk on Github (you'll find it under the "assets" tab):
>>>
>>> https://github.com/IpswichMapper/SwiftAddress/releases
>>>
>>> Make sure you check the releases page because I'll be releasing updates that improve functionality and fix bugs.
>>>
>>> I have written about the app in more detail in my diary entry:
>>>
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/IpswichMapper/diary/395413
>>>
>>> The app starts up as a simple OSMdroid map. The way you place housenumbers is by moving the crosshair (which is in the middle of the screen) above the building outline of the housenumber you are trying to map. You then add the housenumber using the keypad.
>>>
>>> The advantage of this is that the housenumbers are already in the right place when surveying. There is no need to clean up the messy data (like with Keypad Mapper 3) or draw housenumbers (like with Streetcomplete). All that needs to be done is to load the data into JOSM and then upload. (In the future direct upload might be supported).
>>>
>>> Of course, most times building outlines aren't drawn in OSM, so you can't tell from OSM imagery where the postition of the building/house is. For this I plan on implementing satellite background imageries into the app, so that you can use that to find the position of the house. (I need to know how to implement that first, however, and what imagery/tms I can use)
>>>
>>> You can also has a few more features, for example, auto-incrementing, and the ability to take notes. I have described the app in more detail in the diary entry.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> IpswichMapper
>>>
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