[OSM-talk] Automatic problem fixing is an automated edit

Casper Kersten casperkersten1 at gmail.com
Fri Jul 30 13:51:00 UTC 2021

Dear Frederik Ramm,

So the community has to ask for your permission each time we press ctrl+F?
That seems a little unrealistic, don't you think?

You also seem to be presenting your opinion as an undisputed or even
indisputable fact with complete disregard for the ongoing discussion and
other opinions.

Your statement also completely fails to address the huge and growing amount
of bad data that OSM has. See for example Pages that link to
"Template:PossibleSynonym" - OpenStreetMap Wiki
get a rough idea of data that can easily be improved without much
controversy if you end this harmful policy.

Best regards,


Op vr 30 jul. 2021 om 13:53 schreef Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org>:

> Hi,
> a propos some recent issues that bubbled up to DWG I would like to
> remind everyone that if you use an editor that supports some sort of
> automated "problem fixing" or "tag upgrading" or something, unless this
> is strictly limited to objects you have edited yourself, the use of such
> a function is considered an automated/mechanical edit.
> If you plan to do this, you will have to follow the guidelines outlined
> in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct
> which among other things means that you are expected to discuss your
> plans (including exactly which set of rules will be applied to the data)
> with the community before you act.
> The automated "fixing" in editors is intended to help mappers contribute
> correct data; it must not blindly be applied to data created by others.
> The fact that some "automatic fixing" options have been built into some
> editors does *not* mean that the community has given blanket approval
> for these rules to be automatically applied without the case-by-case
> discussion required by the automated edit guideliens.
> Bye
> Frederik
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