[OSM-talk] OSMF Draft Attribution Guidelines, possible vote at end of this month & new guidelines.

Simon Poole simon at poole.ch
Sat Jun 12 14:30:57 UTC 2021

I would agree that the clause is nonsense and should be removed.

If the gudelines are more strict than the licence then the OSMF is adding restrictions to the licence, which directly contradicts the licence text. If the intention is not to provide a safe harbour, then why is the OSMF working on the document in the 1st place?

Am 12. Juni 2021 14:20:56 MESZ schrieb ndrw6 <ndrw6 at redhazel.co.uk>:
>I think the document should clarify its legal status more clearly and 
>"Guidelines" in the title is good.
>The following statement in the introduction is both wrong and not 
>prominent enough:
>"These guidelines are not a substitute for the legal text itself. If the 
>two texts disagree, the legal text takes precedence."
>- It is wrong because it implies the document can augment the ODbL by 
>adding clauses to it. Guidelines are simply our *interpretation* of the 
>license. Our *guarantee* that conforming to these extra rules will 
>automatically address attribution requirements of ODbL, no questions 
>asked. Finally, our *wish* of how members of OpenStreetMap community 
>should behave - while this is not a requirement it is something we look 
>into account when project governance is at stake.
>- A statement about a legal status (after corrections) deserves its own 
>section in the document, preferably before the introduction.
>On 12/06/2021 12:16, R. A. McCann (OSMF Board) wrote:
>> Hello OSMers,
>> The OSMF Board is considering an update to the OSMF's guideline on how to attribute OSM data. See below for details:
>> ----- Original message -----
>> From: "R. A. McCann (OSMF Board)" <rory.mccann at osmfoundation.org>
>> To: OSMF Talk <osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org>
>> Cc: OSMF Board <board at osmfoundation.org>
>> Subject: Draft Attribution Guidelines, possible vote at end of this month & new guidelines.
>> Date: Saturday, 12 June 2021 13:09
>> Hello OSMF members,
>> The OSMF Board has been working on an update to the OSMF's Attribution Guidelines for a little while, and in conjunction with the Licensing Working Group, and external legal counsel, have settled on a draft Guidelines. We would like to share this with you, the OSM(F) community.
>> Here's the current draft:
>> https://wiki.osm.org/Draft_Attribution_Guideline/2021v0.9
>> Perhaps the most prominent change compared to previous drafts is the guidance for interactive maps: We set an expectation that attribution is visible for at least some time without user interaction to fall within the safe harbour outlined by the Attribution Guidelines. This was a major point of feedback during previous rounds of consultation.
>> The OSMF Board will probably vote to accept this at our next board meeting which is on 14:00 UTC 2021-06-25. This meeting is open to all OSMF Members. More details on this meeting: https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Board/Minutes/2021-06
>> The OSMF Board wants to know what you think.
>> If you would like to leave feedback, you can reply to this email, or email the board privately at board at osmfoundation.org
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