[OSM-talk] Racist, insulting and abusive comments on OSM related channels

Sören Reinecke tilmanreinecke at yahoo.de
Mon Mar 15 13:24:48 UTC 2021

 > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM_centric_Telegram_accounts/anti-spam_initiative#Code_Of_Conduct_for_federation_bans https://t.me/fosmbot
Is there any reason why you bring up the federation on Telegram I created? It is not related to Discord.

    Am Sonntag, 14. März 2021, 22:50:18 MEZ hat 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk <talk at openstreetmap.org> Folgendes geschrieben:  
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Воскресенье, 14 марта 2021, 15:34 -05:00 от Bert -Araali- Van Opstal <bert.araali.afritastic at gmail.com>:
Dear all,

This is a call to our whole community, 

I have become only recently active on OSM's community channels. I am very welcomed, respected on the various talk pages, and I appreciate that.
The past month I have been following different alternative channels, Telegram groups, WhatsApp groups, and... Discord.
All of them using the OSM name, which for me stands as a quality mark, not just as a trade mark. Being channels that respect, values and understands different cultures, different opinions, promotes decent and democratic principles, respect the "etiquette" required of calling yourself an OSM contributor, a member of this community.

However, what I see on Discord, all under the OSM trade name, sorry for the word... is disgusting.
Whole communities being insulted (words I don't even dare to use), remarks of non-English communities making "dumb" remarks, vote lobbying for and against proposals because they are made by "another" countries community member, it's nearing to hate speech... really disgusting.

The ones who are on these channels know who and what I am talking about, I kindly ask you, stop this please.  This is not welcome, highly inappropriate and not how you communicate with your fellow human beings, your fellow OSM contributor. Stop, go and look in the mirror, and ask yourself what am I doing, is this how I want to be known in a worldwide peaceful community ?

I didn't file a compliant at the DWG, I didn't call this subject to be handled in the OSMF board (yet), I first call in this channel, and everyone who experiences the same, feels the same discussed, speak out, comment on this channel, because I don't want to be associated with a channel that uses the OSM name where by some, not all not the majority, but some, disguise and dis-value what we stand for.
And please, don't call names in your comments, it's not limited to people from one country particular, one community. Just express your concerns, and when this behaviour doesn't change, we as a community can and will take action, identify the malicious minds and practices, and remand or ban them. Let your comment be their first warning.

Kind regards,

Bert Araali
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