[OSM-talk] You are still free to continue to use or interpret this tag as you see fit since OpenStreetMap does not have “banned features”
krippi at gmail.com
Tue Mar 16 21:41:02 UTC 2021
I tend to agree with what Roland Olbricht wrote.
However, I would like to answer to the "roadmap" below. Yes, the
majority of people don't care what Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Google, bla,
bla are doing. I do care. I don't use Facebook and WhatsApp, I don't
have any closed-source Google-Apps on my Smartphone and it's my choice
not to use Apple's products.
It's not always true that a minority cannot change anything. As you
said, OSM "creators" / "contributors" might not be too many people. But
think about how the world of open map data would look like if OSM had
not been started in the first place.
And this is why I want OSM to be as open as possible. I do want to be
able to invent tags that no one yet uses. This is how OSM started: There
were no rules on which tags exist. People started inventing them
whenever they thought it makes sense to have this information in OSM.
And slowly, schemes and "most commonly used tags" were worked out. If
someone wants to tag feature XYZ in the future, let them :) Even if this
information is not used at the moment, we might be happy to have it at
some point of time.
Am 16.03.21 um 16:41 schrieb Sören Reinecke via talk:
>> then they are in breach of our license, because everybody interacting
> with a work based on OpenStreetMap data must be made aware that the data
> is from openstreetmap and available under the odbl.
> It is not about proper attribution, it is the fact that most people
> (Mainstream) do not care. But that is getting off topic.
> _Let me give you a roadmap:_
> Facebook brought WhatsApp and will now combine WhatsApp user data with
> Facebook user data. Reaction from Mainstream: I don't care, not even
> about my own property.
> Google & other Smartphone OS vendors disallow the removal of so-called
> "system apps". Reaction from Mainstream: I don't care because I like
> And since my E-Mail app is a system app and gets no updates anymore
> (modern e-mail providers begin to change their login systems), I have
> just another unusable app on my phone costing me space.
> Apple traps you in there ******** universe of no standardization and bad
> practice. Reaction from Mainstream: I don't care, please let me be hostage.
> Amazon does not pay taxes. Reaction from Mainstream: I don't care, I
> will support them anyway no matter what they do.
> Lieferando runs shadow websites. That's literally speaking faking real
> existing websites. That's legal and also supported by issuers of SSL
> certificates. Reaction from Mainstream: I don't care, I let them trick me.
> So why should the Mainstream be interested in the source of the data
> they use. Most don't even care about their own data :(
> Only a small portion of open-minded people mainly organized in
> Communities will care and notice the great work we have done. Most
> people will "just don't care" and raising awareness won't get the
> desired effect (yet).
> That is sad but the Mainstream is like that. Humanity is weak
> On 16.03.21 14:50, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>> then they are in breach of our license, because everybody interacting with a work based on OpenStreetMap data must be made aware that the data is from openstreetmap and available under the odbl.
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