[OSM-talk] Form to improve the OSMTracker tool.

[Simon Poole]

On 6 August 2022 16:12:00 CEST, Andy Townsend <ajt1047 at gmail.com> wrote:
>On 06/08/2022 13:55, Simon Poole wrote:
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>> The thing is, it is -actually- no longer 2010 and the task of collecting data while moving faster than walking speed has been solved. Street-side imagery, that is with Mapillary, KartaView and so on, with post-recording ML supported analysis so that it is easy to find the interesting bits. This is safe, doesn't suffer from all the issues pressing any kind of buttons while moving has, and the major platforms are well supported in all major editors.
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>That is ... simply untrue.
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>If all you're interested in is what's adjacent to major roads in wealthy countries, then you may have a point, but I suspect that most people (even the author of Vespucci!) are interested in a bit more than that.  Here:
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>https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=54.267470391951406&lng=-1.5037785704323596&z=8.519288211239532
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>is what Mapillary has for a swathe of the north of England.  At first glance it seems great for e.g. the hen-night hot-spots of York, but the reality:

I wasn't claiming that any one source has enough streetside imagery to satisfy all demands, just that  the technique solves the issue of collecting data while moving faster than pedestrians speed. 
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>https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=53.95787922426587&lng=-1.0787806460161846&z=18.704421429000508&pKey=2905699859747785&focus=map
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>is probably a bit less useful.  Away from major roads, there are snippets here and there, but essentially nothing.
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>It's rare I need to do "faster than walking speed data capture" since if travelling at that speed I'm usually driving, but anything to do that needs a really simple UI (arguably, even simpler than OsmTracker's "select items from multiple screens"). I tend to use a Garmin handheld for that -  to record something, the minimal involvement is just press a button twice (which you can do without even looking at it) and sort out what it was later.  https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/124411486 was added based on information collected in exactly that way. Whenever I've used OsmTracker I tend to leave lots of text notes (the nearest functionality to "here is a thing and I'll sort it out later" that it has) without much text in them.
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>Mapping a function like that to a dedicated hardware button on phones that have them would be nice*.

Arguing that stopping and detailed inspection gives more and better data, is a) undisputed and b) not the point.

Simon
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>Best Regards,
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>Andy
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>* e.g. https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-remap-the-bixby-button/ , https://community.phones.nokia.com/discussion/44579/google-assistant-button-remap-workaround .  There are standalone button remappers out there, but, given the access they'll need to the device, would you trust them?
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