[OSM-talk] Was the deletion of Null Island reasonable?

[Sarp Hangişi]

Here are some other news outlets: (These were chosen by looking at a
list of popular news outlets)

New York Times - nothing

CNN - nothing

Yahoo Finance - 1 article that is primarily about the place.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/welcome-null-island-fake-place-160439643.html

Washington Post - nothing

BuzzFeed - nothing

Wall Street Journal - 1 article that is primarily about the place.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/if-you-cant-follow-directions-youll-end-up-on-null-island-1468422251

The Telegraph - 1 mention
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/africa/articles/sao-tome-and-principe-the-island-paradise-heaven-for-photographers/

Some other less well known news sites with articles about the place:
(These were chosen by specifically searching for null island)

VICE (General News)
https://www.vice.com/en/article/vv73ad/a-journey-to-the-center-of-null-island

Gizmodo (General News)
https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2016/07/youve-probably-been-to-null-island/

Kotaku (Video Game News)
https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/07/network-error-exiles-street-fighter-v-players-to-fictional-island/

Science Alert (Science News)
https://www.sciencealert.com/welcome-to-null-island-the-most-visited-place-that-doesn-t-exist

Articles talking about the place in languages other than English:
(These were also chosen by specifically searching for null island)

https://www.elconfidencial.com/tecnologia/2020-12-07/null-island-isla-paradisiaca-no-existe-gps-localizador-coordenadas_2862848/
https://novyny.live/travel/gde-nakhoditsia-samyi-zagadochnyi-ostrov-nol-i-v-chem-ego-unikalnost-31848.html
https://www.dn.pt/vida-e-futuro/null-island-o-minusculo-pais-atlantico-que-sem-o-sabermos-ja-visitamos-12467153.html
http://www.slate.fr/story/117907/null-island-visites-existe-pas
https://blog.zeit.de/teilchen/2016/07/15/null-island-computer-internet/

On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 at 13:25, Andy Townsend <ajt1047 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 08/01/2022 13:00, Sarp Hangişi wrote:
> > Resending my previous email because the mailing list can't display html emails.
> >
> >> Based on that (and unless anyone can dig out more compelling evidence),
> >> I don't think that the name "Null Island" has "cut through" to the
> >> general public yet
> > There are videos on YouTube with millions of views that are about or
> > mention null island. For example this video
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c1am8NSx_s mentioning the place has
> > over 3 million views, and this video
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjvIpI-1w84 about the place has over 2
> > million views. I think 3 million people from around the world is
> > enough to for it to have "cut through" to the general public
> >
> The first of those videos is 'The Terrible Mistake of Choosing "Null" as
> a License Plate' and mentions "Null Island" about 40 seconds; the second
> ("Null Island: The Busiest Place That Doesn't Exist") _is_ about Null
> Island and also explains other "null" issues.
>
> Is 2-3 million Youtube views a lot?  It's a lot more than the videos at
> https://www.youtube.com/c/StateoftheMap which aren't targeted at the
> general public, but under 1 2000th of the top ones at
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLirAqAtl_h2r5g8xGajEwdXd3x1sZh8hC
> which have been viewed more times than there are people on the planet.
> Click the first of those links at your own risk if you're over the age
> of 3...
>
> Looking through a selection of other media outlets of various persuasions:
>
> BBC - nothing:
>
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/search?q=null+island
>
> Fox US - nothing*:
>
> https://www.foxnews.com/search-results/search?q=null%20island
>
> The UK Guardian - 1 mention, as an incorrect answer to a quiz question:
>
> https://www.google.co.uk/search?as_q=null+island&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&lr=&cr=&as_qdr=all&as_sitesearch=www.theguardian.com&as_occt=any&safe=images&as_filetype=&tbs=
>
> China Daily - nothing:
>
> https://newssearch.chinadaily.com.cn/en/search?query=null+island
>
> Daily Mail - nothing:
>
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?sel=site&searchPhrase=null+island
>
> Replace those searches with "Bermuda Triangle" and each of those will
> find references.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Andy
>
> * though I quite liked the idea that "Volcanic eruptions like the one in
> Hawaii, are not natural disasters -- without them the Earth would explode"
>
>