[OSM-talk] OSM Help Ukraine Map

[yo paseopor]

"Don't make shitty maps
for Ukrainians just because they don't object - they probably have other
things on their minds right now."

I'm tired of you and your answers. I remember who you are. You are the
person who insulted me when the pandemy had started and we tried to add all
the pharmacies.  In fact you said "Nothing is urgent here. Nobody will
suddenly suffer because a pharmacy is missing from OSM. You are just making
up an urgent task because you sit at home with nothing else to do." (said
to a teacher first week of closing schools on March 2020).

I can map either in Burundi or Burkina Faso, but I cannot do the same
efforts in my land, in my country, in my continent, answering the petitions
of the Polish community:

"How one may help

Mapping:
- mapping Eastern Poland (OSM quality is relatively good in Poland but even
roads are sometimes missing).
- remember to use Geoportal.gov.pl as the primary imagery and for aligning
objects
- mapping name:uk where missing (though that may be better left for people
who know language)"

Try to say to a Ukrainian recently arrived "Nothing is urgent here. Nobody
will suddenly suffer because a pharmacy is missing from OSM" . I'm sure
they will appreciate your words. Always you can use an automatic translator
to say it "correctly" ;)

Now I remember why I had unsubscribed to this list.
Glory and Good Luck to Dopomoha.pl and their job.
Bye
yopaseopor

On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 2:01 AM Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 3/11/22 00:15, yo paseopor wrote:
> > a Mapcomplete theme for Ukrainian -name:uk- "translations" of
> > everything with a name
>
> A few comments on name tags:
>
> The "name:xx" tags are not there for translations - they are there to
> record names that things have in different languages.
>
> For example, "Pont Neuf" in Paris translates as "New Bridge", but the
> English name for this bridge is still "Pont Neuf". No speaker of English
> would say they've been to Paris and they saw the "New Bridge". Anyone,
> well-meaning as they may be, adding a "name:en=Pont Neuf" to that bridge
> damages OSM and makes it the laughing stock of those with actual
> knowledge of the issue.
>
> Please be aware of these rules when adding "name:uk" tags - they are
> only to be used if something actually has an Ukrainian name, they are
> not to be used for translations that a well-meaning person made up with
> the help of a dictionary without any knowledge about the situation.
>
> There's only one sort of name:xx tag that is worse than an unwarranted
> translation, and that's a descriptive name:xx tag. If, for example,
> someone were to add the Ukrainian word for "police station" as a name
> tag to an amenity=police somewhere, that would clearly be wrong and
> deserves to be reverted immediately.
>
> I appreciate the desire to come up with ways to help Ukraine, but if we
> want to help with maps, then let us help with GOOD maps and keep up the
> quality standards that we adhere to elsewhere. Don't make shitty maps
> for Ukrainians just because they don't object - they probably have other
> things on their minds right now.
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>
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