[OSM-talk] HOT using the OpenStreetMap-Foundation trademark

Pete Masters pedrito1414 at googlemail.com
Tue May 31 16:45:41 UTC 2022


Hi Martin and all, just to update on this. I have added a section into the
wiki page on HOT called HOT's name, legal name and registration
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team#HOT's_name,_legal_name_and_registration>.
It is listed in the navigation on the main page under Governance. I also
removed the warning from the wiki page, but clumsily clicked submit before
adding a comment, so apologies for that.

Our website is currently in (the very early stages of) redevelopment, but
we will make sure that the relationship here is also clear.

Thanks

Pete



On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 11:22 AM Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> Am Mi., 18. Mai 2022 um 11:52 Uhr schrieb Amanda McCann <
> amanda.mccann at osmfoundation.org>:
>
>> I know that the OSMF trademarks & copyright are not, and should not, be
>> optional. I don't believe I ever said otherwise. I was merely updating
>> yous, the membership, on the current status. 🙂 As I said, we are (still,
>> intermittently) working on a mutually beneficial contract.
>
>
>
> I believe HOT should point out in a visible way that they are not governed
> by the "OpenStreetMap-Foundation" or a subsidiary of it, because by using
> the protected trademark "OpenStreetMap" in their name it appears to
> everybody they are. I could also imagine that if something bad happened at
> HOT and became public, it would shade a bad light on OSM as well, because
> it looks to outsiders as if both were the same or HOT a body under the
> OSMF, but surely it wouldn't come to mind that "Humanitarian OpenStreetMap
> Team United States incorporated" has nothing to do with
> "OpenStreetMap-Foundation" - on a formal level. Even less, if the website
> doesn't state the company name in any place but links to OpenStreetMap with
> this sentence in the footer:
> "Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team is a 501(c)(3) not-for-profit
> organization and global community. Learn more about OpenStreetMap
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/about>."
>
> I also believe it would be clearly preferrable if HOT renamed to something
> like "Humanitarian Open mapping Team United States (HOT)", so that the OSMF
> does not have to endorse a specific company by giving them the right to use
> the OSMF trademarks.
>
> Martin
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