[OSM-talk] Automated Populate/Update Problem

[Warin]

G'day,

Yes to contacting the Ozies on au-talk.

In general I'd be careful on changing the 'old' data as some of it maybe 
better than the departments data, needs a judgement call. I'd think 
adding to it is fine - reference numbers that are missing, that kind of 
thing.

Adding new stops should be fine - assuming that the data is reasonable 
location and quality wise.


Best .. talk to the locals, enter a few examples, say 20, of the new 
data and state some of the conflicting stops differences between OSM and 
the departments data - say 10? This would give a small sample 
demonstration of what is intended and is easier to correct than 27,000 
of them.

On 28/9/22 20:38, Andrew Harvey wrote:
> Yep you'll reach Victorian and Australian mappers better on talk-au as 
> some might not join the global talk list -> 
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au.
>
> I'll echo other's comments here, if you are planning or have done the 
> conflation I'd suggest sharing those results so the community can 
> review and share feedback.
>
> On Wed, 28 Sept 2022 at 19:16, Phil Wyatt <phil at wyatt-family.com> wrote:
>
>     Hi Rob,
>
>     Given you are in Australia I would try the talk AU list as well.
>     Maybe also the discord channels as there are a few Ozzie folks
>     there in the Oceania channel with lots of transport experience.
>
>     Cheers - Phil
>     (On the phone so apologies for any typos)
>
>>     On 28 Sep 2022, at 6:36 pm, rob potter <pots253 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>     Thanks for your reply.
>>
>>     I have read the guidelines.
>>
>>     I'm in Victoria, Australia
>>
>>     Rob
>>
>>     On Wed, 28 Sept 2022, 18:07 Eugene Alvin Villar,
>>     <seav80 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi,
>>
>>             I work for the state transport department
>>
>>
>>         Sorry if I missed this somewhere, but which state and which
>>         country? Depending on the answer, there might be a local
>>         community that can help and provide guidance as well with the
>>         conflation/import process.
>>
>>         Thanks,
>>         Eugene
>>
>>
>>         On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 3:24 PM rob potter
>>         <pots253 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>             Hi,
>>
>>             I work for the state transport department and we are
>>             looking to become an active member of the community and
>>             as a first dataset we have focused on is our public
>>             transport stops, bus and tram initially and then stations.
>>
>>             I would like your advice on how to achieve the outcome.
>>
>>                 There are a number of considerations:
>>
>>                   o Currently in the state there are ~9,100
>>                     highway:bus_stop
>>                   o our GTFS - stops.txt has ~27,000 stops
>>                   o the current accuracy of highway:bus_stop needs
>>                     review.
>>                   o stops.txt location appears to be of a much better
>>                     quality
>>
>>             My initial thought was extract current, match data
>>             location, enrich what stops.txt has then create all new
>>             and remove existing as final step.
>>
>>             I would guess there are people screaming NOOOOO!! if so,
>>             please advise of a viable way of making such a significant
>>
>>             Regards,
>>
>>             Rob
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