[OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

Frederik Ramm frederik at remote.org
Fri Sep 30 11:36:37 UTC 2022


Hi,

On 30.09.22 12:59, Marc_marc wrote:
> do we really want the community to waste its time remaking
> a wikidata-osm out of ego not to use wikidata.org when
> it describes the same concept?

I think that there is a danger of confusion here because Wikidata has 
its own ideas about what a tree is and they might differ from our 
definition, and I foresee people arguing "I am using this tag here 
because the Wikidata Q-whatever thing says I can".

For example, on historic=monument, wikidata says in Q4989906: "imposing 
structure created to commemorate a person or event, or used for that 
purpose", whereas OSM says: "A memorial object, which is especially 
large (one can go inside, walk on or through it) or very tall (see the 
examples), built to remember, show respect to a person or group of 
people or to commemorate an event."

These definitions are not identical and will rarely be.

But having said that, I *did* think that the vote was about hiding the 
wikidata item from the infobox (and especially hiding the obnoxious 
"there's no wikidata link yet please create one") - which would have 
mean the removal of a couple lines of code on the infobox, instead of 
editing every single page with a bot. Looking back now, the vote said: 
"It will not lead to any data loss, but will make Wikidata link far less 
prominent."

"Make link far less prominent" is not the same as "delete link".

Therefore the bot activity has, in my opinion, no community backing and 
needs to be stopped and reverted.

You can't have people vote on one thing and then do something else.

Bye
Frederik

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