[OSM-talk] Proposed bot edit: automatic replacement of surface values where it is safe

[Mateusz Konieczny]

I will review this list.

Rare obvious values I will just retag.
Some may appear in future proposal.
Some are proposed in this one (holz)
Some are too complex (pflastersteine) and I will rather create notes for them
as it can be not only sett
https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/proposed-bot-edit-automatic-replacement-of-surface-values-where-it-is-safe/105361/5
Nov 2, 2023, 08:11 by mdeen at xs4all.nl:

> I have a few suggestions too:
>  
> verdichtet => compacted
> straatstenenc => paving_stones
> bestraat => paving_stones
> niet-bestraat => unpaved
> niet-bestraat2 => unpaved
> niet-bestraat33 => unpaved
> щебеночное_покрытие => gravel
> no_paved => unpaved
> concreteas => concrete
> Pflastersteine => sett
> pflastersteine => sett
> Bosbodem => dirt
> klinkers => sett
> sans_revêtement => unpaved
> schotter => gravel
> Turf => turf
> holz => wood
> грунт => dirt
> terre_battue => gravel
> плитка => paving_stones
> pavingstones => paving_stones
> não_pavimentado => unpaved
> Waldboden => ground (literally forest soil)
> permukaan tanah dan Beton means ground and concrete
>  
> And I want to point attention to surface=앿
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1185643877
> Seems someone is adding this in Taiwan a lot. I think it means unpaved.
>  
>
>> Op 01-11-2023 23:42 CET schreef Mateusz Konieczny via talk <talk at openstreetmap.org>:
>>  
>>  
>> I proposed some time ago to fix some surface values.
>>  
>> Edit is documented at
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Mateusz_Konieczny_-_bot_account/fixing_malformed_surface_tags
>>  
>> I propose to expand this by fixing also values listed below.
>>  
>> Please comment if any of proposed replacements are dubious in any way and 
>> do not qualify for a replacement with an automated edit.
>>  
>> Please also comment if you checked values proposed to be edited and they seem fine!
>>  
>> Edit will affect around 2200 objects.
>>  
>> It is preferable to use standard tag values where possible,
>> and in many cases unusual values can be migrated without any data loss.
>> The list below is supposed to contain only such cases.
>>  
>> If anyone wants I can help them to find affected objects or present listing of
>> edits which added this tags or list people who added this values onto currently
>> tagged osm objects.
>>  
>> Samples of this values were tested. I also asked for review at >> https://forum.openstreetmap.fr/t/review-requested-before-proposing-bot-edit-for-automated-fixing-of-surface-values/18419
>>  
>> Tried to use them as detectors of bogus data, neither were really useful for this purpose.
>> We have many better ways to find OSM data requiring human review.
>>  
>> So I am proposing following changes
>>  
>> tags with highest use, among ones that will be retagged
>> surface = astroturf with 297 uses
>> surface = timber with 122 uses
>> surface = paving with 179 uses
>> surface = U with 82 uses
>> surface = enrobé with 276 uses
>> surface = terre with 383 uses
>>  
>>  
>> surface = astroturf → surface = artificial_turf
>> surface = timber → surface = wood (see >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/66866027>>  >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/126078123>>  >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/126078123>>  >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/68461319>>  >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/69445813>>  >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/57280475>>  >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/126800407>>  )
>> surface = DIRT → surface = dirt
>> surface = paving → surface = paved
>> surface = U → surface = unpaved
>>  
>> French from >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2023-April/088164.html
>> review at >> https://forum.openstreetmap.fr/t/review-requested-before-proposing-bot-edit-for-automated-fixing-of-surface-values/18419
>>  
>> surface = enrobé → surface = asphalt
>> surface = béton_bitumineux → surface = asphalt
>> surface = béton_bitumimeux → surface = asphalt
>> surface = bitumen → surface = asphalt
>> surface = enrobes → surface = asphalt
>> surface = bitume → surface = asphalt
>> surface = goudronné → surface = asphalt
>> surface = gourdon → surface = asphalt
>> surface = plastique → surface = plastic
>> surface = banc_de_sable → surface = sand
>> surface = terre → surface = earth
>> surface = Terre → surface = earth
>> surface = terre_boue → surface = mud
>> surface = terre_humide → surface = mud
>> surface = terre,_boue → surface = mud
>> surface = graviers → surface = gravel
>> surface = tere → surface = earth
>> surface = terre2 → surface = earth
>> surface = caoutchouc → surface = rubber
>> surface = bois → surface = wood
>> surface = béton_désactivé → surface = concrete
>> surface = terre_batue → surface = clay
>> surface = pavés → surface = paved
>> surface = carrelage → surface = tiles
>> surface = pelouse_et_terre → surface = grass;ground
>> surface = terre_touvenant → surface = ground
>> surface = terre;herbe → surface = ground;grass
>> surface = terre_naturelle,_argileuse → surface = ground
>> surface = gravier → surface = gravel
>> surface = gazon_synthétique → surface = artificial_turf
>> surface = béton → surface = concrete
>> surface = ciment → surface = concrete
>> surface = herbe → surface = grass
>> surface = gazon → surface = grass
>> surface = herb → surface = grass
>> surface = herbe_naturel → surface = grass
>> surface = pelouse → surface = grass
>> surface = pelouse_naturelle → surface = grass
>> surface = terre_et_rochers → surface = ground;rock
>> surface = béton_bois → surface = concrete;wood
>> surface = terre,_cailloux → surface = ground;gravel
>> surface = terre_et_herbe → surface = earth;grass
>> surface = herbe_et_sable → surface = grass;sand
>> surface = sable_et_terre → surface = sand;earth
>> surface = terre_et_sable → surface = earth;sand
>> surface = terre_cailloux → surface = ground;gravel
>> surface = terre_goudrons → surface = ground;asphalt
>> surface = terre_goudron → surface = ground;asphalt
>> surface = terre_pierres → surface = ground;gravel
>> surface = terre_et_pierre → surface = ground;gravel
>> surface = terr_et_pierre → surface = ground;gravel
>> surface = terre/sable → surface = ground;sand
>> surface = terre_et_pierres → surface = ground;gravel
>> surface = Herbe_et_cailloux → surface = grass;gravel
>> surface = terre_et_gravier → surface = ground;gravel
>> surface = gravillons,_béton → surface = gravel;concrete
>> surface = graviers_et_terre → surface = gravel;ground
>> surface = sable → surface = sand
>> surface = Sable → surface = sand
>> surface = cailloux → surface = gravel
>> surface = pierre → surface = gravel
>> surface = gravier0 → surface = gravel
>>  
>> surface = asphalt_on_concrete_sub-base → surface = asphalt >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/30055680>>  - asked on 2023-03-20 (mapper is inactive, commented that they are fine with this change)
>>  
>> surface = Sand → surface = sand
>> surface = unhewn_cobblestones → surface = unhewn_cobblestone
>> surface = holz → surface = wood
>> surface = асфальт → surface = asphalt
>> surface = concrete1 → surface = concrete
>> surface = compactedc → surface = compacted
>> surface = concreteq → surface = concrete
>> surface = paving_stones2 → surface = paving_stones
>> surface = asphaltq3 → surface = asphalt
>> surface = asphaltcc → surface = asphalt
>> surface = asphaltqq → surface = asphalt
>> surface = unpaved-- → surface = unpaved
>> surface = unpavedMN → surface = unpaved
>> surface = a → surface = asphalt
>> surface = asphalt:chipseal → surface = chipseal
>> surface = pavement → surface = paved
>> surface = ground_dirt → surface = dirt
>> surface = tiled → surface = paved
>> surface = astro_turf → surface = artificial_turf
>> surface = wood_planks → surface = wood
>> surface = AS → surface = asphalt
>> surface = flooring_tiles → surface = tiles
>> surface = lawn → surface = grass
>> surface = Brick → surface = brick
>> surface = Artificial Turf → surface = artificial_turf
>> surface = ea → surface = earth
>> surface = dit → surface = dirt
>> surface = wooden deck → surface = wood
>> surface = paved_minor → surface = paved
>> surface = s-and → surface = sand
>> surface = cobble → surface = cobblestone
>>  
>> surface = unpaved2 → surface = unpaved
>> surface = paving_stones4= → surface = paving_stones
>> surface = concretefl → surface = concrete
>> surface = asphaltww → surface = asphalt
>> surface = grassq → surface = grass
>> surface = unpaved∂ → surface = unpaved
>> surface = unhewn-cobblestone → surface = unhewn_cobblestone
>> surface = unpavedŒ → surface = unpaved
>> surface = paving_stonesv → surface = paving_stones
>> surface = unpavedNo → surface = unpaved
>> surface = gravel3 → surface = gravel
>> surface = sett9 → surface = sett
>> surface = concreteas → surface = concrete
>> surface = paved3 → surface = paved
>> surface = asphaltŒ → surface = asphalt
>> surface = asphalt_ → surface = asphalt
>> surface = asphaltw → surface = asphalt
>> surface = asphaltq → surface = asphalt
>> surface = grass2 → surface = grass
>> surface = paved22 → surface = paved
>> surface = dirtц → surface = dirt
>> surface = unpaved1 → surface = unpaved
>>  
>>  
>> there are also many low-use values with one or two or three extra bogus characters, for example
>> surface = artificial_turf22 → surface = artificial_turf
>>  
>> would be also OK to migrate them without listing them
>> for review here and just add them to replace list later?
>> And other similar obvious typos appearing or found in future?
>>  
>> Only low use obvious mistakes would be changed. 
>> If anyone at all will protest and I will not do this and post
>> for review, like list here, once sufficiently many values are found.
>>  
>> Proposed edit would be automatic, rerun from time to time, split into small
>> changeset by geographic areas and run by
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mateusz%20Konieczny%20-%20bot%20account/history>>  bot account
>>  
>> Following is the same reasoning and plan as previously:
>>  
>> Why it is useful? It helps newbies to avoid becoming confused. It
>> protects against such values becoming established. Without drudgery
>> that would be required from the manual cleanup. It also makes easier to
>> add missing values where needed.
>>  
>> It also cuts down on help/research to answer cases "why this feature
>> is not showing up properly" (because it has a typo in a tag).
>>  
>> Why automatic edit? I have a massive queue (in thousands and tens of
>> thousands) of automatically detectable issues which are not reported by
>> mainstream validators, require fixes and fix requires review or
>> complete manual cleanup.
>>  
>> There is no point in manual drudgery here, with values clearly
>> replaceable by better matches.
>>  
>> This values here do NOT require manual overview. If this cases will
>> turn out to be an useful signal of invalid editing than I will remain
>> reviewing nearby areas where bot edited.
>>  
>> And I fixed some manually and they were not a great sign of a problematic data.
>>  
>> Yes, bot edit WILL cause objects to be edited. Nevertheless, as result
>> map data quality will improve.
>>  
>> note: there is a matching announcement at community forum, but 
>> talk mailing list confirmation is intended to be as a final one.
>> ( >> https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/proposed-bot-edit-automatic-replacement-of-surface-values-where-it-is-safe/105361>>  )
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