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    <font size="-1">I think a Software should explain their general
      functionality itself<font size="-1"> and josm does this.</font></font><small>
      But of course you can't explain every functionality by itself
      because this function is mainly used by some experts. In these
      cases its much better to have a wiki-documentation then only
      source code.</small><br>
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    Henning<br>
    <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 29.06.2013 01:43, schrieb Bryce
      Nesbitt:<br>
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cite="mid:CAC9LFPfNQz08LC+HCupoA27VsjrK0FZGVHDk2H8Bhb7VGnLmuw@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 9:16 AM, colliar
        <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:colliar4ever@aol.com" target="_blank">colliar4ever@aol.com</a>></span>
        wrote:<br>
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          Hey<br>
          <br>
          I wonder how useful the JOSM wiki is ?<br>
          * Is it used at all ?<br>
          * Why do only a handful persons edit it though you can even
          edit<br>
          anonymously ?<br>
          Comments ?<br>
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        <div>I have no interest in, or use for, the JOSM wiki.</div>
        <div>These days I expect software to be navigable through the
          interface.</div>
        <div>With all the software we use, who has time to read manuals?</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>"How to" guides for complicated multistep tasks can be
          useful... but</div>
        <div>older style documentation that simply describes what is
          already on screen seems quite outmoded.</div>
        <div>For example from the JOSM wiki:</div>
        <div>
          <table
            style="border-spacing:0px;border-collapse:collapse;font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,Arial,'Bitstream
            Vera Sans',Helvetica,sans-serif;border:1px solid
            rgb(204,204,204)">
            <tbody>
              <tr>
                <td style="border:1px solid
                  rgb(204,204,204);padding:0.1em 0.25em"><a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://josm.openstreetmap.de/browser/trunk/images/aligncircle.png"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(187,0,0);border:none;padding:0px"
                    target="_blank"><img moz-do-not-send="true"
src="http://josm.openstreetmap.de/browser/trunk/images/aligncircle.png?format=raw"
                      alt="source:trunk/images/aligncircle.png"
                      title="source:trunk/images/aligncircle.png"
                      style="border:none"></a></td>
                <td style="border:1px solid
                  rgb(204,204,204);padding:0.1em 0.25em"><a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Action/AlignInCircle"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(85,85,85);border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted;border-bottom-color:rgb(187,187,187);background-color:rgb(238,238,238)"
                    target="_blank">Align Nodes in Circle</a></td>
                <td style="border:1px solid
                  rgb(204,204,204);padding:0.1em 0.25em"><tt
                    style="color:rgb(102,0,0);border:1px solid
                    rgb(238,221,204);border-top-left-radius:0.25em;border-top-right-radius:0.25em;border-bottom-right-radius:0.25em;border-bottom-left-radius:0.25em;padding:0px
                    0.3em;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);background-repeat:initial
                    initial">O</tt></td>
                <td style="border:1px solid
                  rgb(204,204,204);padding:0.1em 0.25em">Move the
                  selected nodes into a circle</td>
              </tr>
              <tr>
                <td style="border:1px solid
                  rgb(204,204,204);padding:0.1em 0.25em"><a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://josm.openstreetmap.de/browser/trunk/images/alignline.png"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(187,0,0);border:none;padding:0px"
                    target="_blank"><img moz-do-not-send="true"
src="http://josm.openstreetmap.de/browser/trunk/images/alignline.png?format=raw"
                      alt="source:trunk/images/alignline.png"
                      title="source:trunk/images/alignline.png"
                      style="border:none"></a></td>
                <td style="border:1px solid
                  rgb(204,204,204);padding:0.1em 0.25em"><a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Action/AlignInLine"
style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(187,0,0);border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted;border-bottom-color:rgb(187,187,187)"
                    target="_blank">Align Nodes in Line</a></td>
                <td style="border:1px solid
                  rgb(204,204,204);padding:0.1em 0.25em"><tt
                    style="color:rgb(102,0,0);border:1px solid
                    rgb(238,221,204);border-top-left-radius:0.25em;border-top-right-radius:0.25em;border-bottom-right-radius:0.25em;border-bottom-left-radius:0.25em;padding:0px
                    0.3em;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);background-repeat:initial
                    initial">L</tt></td>
                <td style="border:1px solid
                  rgb(204,204,204);padding:0.1em 0.25em">Move the
                  selected nodes into a line</td>
              </tr>
            </tbody>
          </table>
        </div>
        <div>I expect to learn the function and shortcuts for menu items
          from the software itself.</div>
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          <div>------------------------------<br
              class="Apple-interchange-newline">
            Perhaps you could share hit count statistics on the 'useful'
            question.  If others find it useful they will link from page
            to page searching for content.</div>
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