[Accessibility] wheelchair=yes/no vs. public_transport=stop_position/platform

[Alex Jurgensen]

Hi All,

Just weighing in here with my thoughts.

Firstly, I am not a wheelchair user, so I may be way off the mark, but couldn't bus lines get a tag such as wheelchairAccessibleOfTheTransport="uncertain" for routes where busses may not be wheelchair accessible and a value of "yes/no/mostly/seldom/normally" otherwise for various other levels of accessibility.

Just my opinion.

Regards,
Alex,


On 2011-10-04, at 4:00 AM, Holger Dieterich wrote:

> Dear Mike,
> 
> Holger from http://wheelmap.org here. We hope no edits get overridden
> by wheelmap edits. If it does, please email me an example so we can
> look into that.
> 
> "stop" vs. "platform":
> We naively thought stop signs would be the appropriate place to put
> the wheelchair-tag. Now we are learning that it is more complex:
> First, you are right and the "platform" seems like a good place as
> fell. Second, not only the platform has to be accessible, but maybe
> also the bus lines (if the busses have automatic ramps for example).
> 
> It's complicated and we even thought about removing bus stops from
> wheelmap because of that complexity.
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> Regards,
> Holger
> 
> PS: Right now wheelmap does only support nodes but we plan to add
> areas in the future. Not sure how to  include ways (like bus lines),
> though.
> 
> 
> 
> 2011/10/3 Michael Forster <email at michael-forster.de>:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_Transport
>> I'm tagging train halts/stations with (at least) two types of OSM
>> elements:
>> 
>> * A node on the route with public_transport=stop_position
>> (railway=station/halt).
>> * A node, way or area next to the route with public_transport=platform
>> (railway=platform).
>> 
>> Where does the wheelchair=yes/no tag go?
>> 
>> My naive thought was that it should go on the platform, not on the
>> stop position, because I imagine that it is the platform that
>> determines the accessibility, not the stop position. (I'm not a
>> wheelchair user, so I'm guessing).
>> 
>> But my edits keep getting overridden by anonymous edits from
>> wheelmap.org, which places the tags on the stop position and seems to
>> ignore the platforms.
>> 
>> Any advice?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>> 
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