[Accessibility] OSM Accessibility in Austin (was Re: Accessibility Digest, Vol 50, Issue 2)
Michael Sidoric
msidoric at mac.com
Sat Jul 9 17:06:44 UTC 2016
OMG please call me.
We have lots to discuss: 512-839-1996
Eager to hear about your project. Let's connect and kick accessibility up a few notches.
Thank you sooooo much for reaching out.
Regards,
Michael.
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> On Jul 9, 2016, at 11:30, Nolan Darilek <nolan at thewordnerd.info> wrote:
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> Sorry, maybe not relevant to the list, and I didn't want to contact you privately entirely out of the blue. Also thought others might be interested in where this thread goes.
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> Looks like you're in Austin? Mind sharing what specifics you're working on re: OSM accessibility here?
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> I'm a blind web/Android developer who has built an open source OSM-based navigation system for Android. I'm also Austin-based. Unfortunately it hasn't really been worked on in years, but I recently did a survey of accessible Android navigation apps and found nothing that does what I want, so I'm considering dusting it off. I may also consider commercializing it to see if it can make a few bucks. If there's local OSM a11y work in progress, that may give me the kick in the ass I need to update it. And of course I want to integrate accessibility tagging schemes as well. It'd be fun to hack on this stuff with local folks, since a11y can be lonely work, and is more so when it's niche like mapping. My girlfriend is also a wheelchair user, and I bet it wouldn't be too hard to twist her arm to help with tagging things like accessible bathrooms, curb cuts, etc. We collectively pretty much know where all the broken sidewalk is, and I've long considered building some sort of easy data collection app that sends those issues straight to OSM.
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>> On 07/08/2016 12:49 PM, Michael Sidoric wrote:
>> Thanks.
>> Greatly admire your proposal. Our interests align with your intents as sidewalks and pedestrian ways are critical for accessibility for all people - especially low vision and blind users. Please feel free to call anytime at 512-839-1996 or tejasfilms on skype. We are proposing that precise routing become an ADA mandate and we are working with NFB Texas to push that forward.
>> Regards from Austin
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>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 12:24, Jess Hamilton <jesshami at uw.edu> wrote:
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>>> Hi Michael,
>>> Thanks for your response. We have added your incline:across tag to our recommended core features, and linked to your work in the related proposals.
>>>
>>> Charles,
>>> Thanks for the support. Is the discussion you mentioned part of a public forum that we might be able to link to?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Jess
>>>
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>>>> 1. Re: sidewalk scheme & layer for accessible routing
>>>> (Charles Basenga Kiyanda)
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>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 10:51:36 -0400
>>>> From: Charles Basenga Kiyanda <personal at charleskiyanda.com>
>>>> To: Accessibility <accessibility at openstreetmap.org>,
>>>> montreal at listes.osmqc.ca
>>>> Subject: Re: [Accessibility] sidewalk scheme & layer for accessible
>>>> routing
>>>> Message-ID: <577E6C78.40102 at charleskiyanda.com>
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>>>> That is great news. We (openstreetmap montréal) worked with a prof at
>>>> Concordia University (www.concordia.ca) on a class project for one of
>>>> his graduate courses in geography. Students gathered data, made
>>>> modifications to OSM and did some rendering after that, specifically
>>>> with accessibility in mind. They elected to use a "sidewalk distinct
>>>> from street" model since it gives more flexibility to represent all
>>>> topologies (at least with less kludging) than the "sidewalk as street
>>>> attribute" model.
>>>>
>>>> We now have a region of downtown Montréal that has both representations
>>>> next to each other, so there's a discusison we'll need to have here
>>>> about where we go. Your proposal will surely be part of that discussion.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/45.49665/-73.57815
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I prefer to represent sidewalks distinctly, so you'll have
>>>> my vote.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Charles
>>>>
>>>> On 07/06/2016 02:02 PM, Jess Hamilton wrote:
>>>> > Hi,
>>>> >
>>>> > My name is Jess I am a member of the Global OpenSidewalks
>>>> > <https://uwescience.github.io/DSSG2016-Sidewalks/> team, part of this
>>>> > year's Data Science form Social Good
>>>> > <http://escience.washington.edu/data-science-for-social-good-projects/> (DSSG)
>>>> > program sponsored by the eScience institute at the University of
>>>> > Washington.
>>>> >
>>>> > We have been working on an OSM standard for sidewalk representation
>>>> > and annotation which we plan to present at the State of the Map
>>>> > Conference, and would love to get some feedback from the OSM
>>>> > accessibility community.
>>>> >
>>>> > Currently in OSM footpaths in the built environment are typically
>>>> > treated as an addendum to streets. As a result, sidewalks in OSM have
>>>> > spotty coverage, an unintuitive implementation that makes user
>>>> > contribution difficult, and fail to serve many use cases, including
>>>> > the needs of people with limited mobility. Our project seeks to make
>>>> > pedestrian ways, particularly sidewalks, first class members of an
>>>> > open data transportation network.
>>>> >
>>>> > We also are proposing an OSM rendering layer for pedestrian ways. This
>>>> > layer would have similar properties to the OpenCycleMap layer but
>>>> > serves different use cases. Born out of the AccessMap
>>>> > project (http://www.accessmapseattle.com/), we are particularly
>>>> > interested in accessibility and facilitating routing for people with
>>>> > limited mobility.
>>>> >
>>>> > Our OSM proposal can be found
>>>> > here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/sidewalk_schema
>>>> > <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/sidewalk_schema> (this
>>>> > is still a work in progress) and project website
>>>> > here: https://uwescience.github.io/DSSG2016-Sidewalks/
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks!
>>>> > Jess
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > *Jess Hamilton*
>>>> > 2017 MLA Candidate
>>>> > University of Washington
>>>> > 646.369.9015
>>>> >
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