[Accessibility] OSM Accessibility in Austin (was Re: Accessibility Digest, Vol 50, Issue 2)
Nolan Darilek
nolan at thewordnerd.info
Sat Jul 9 16:30:07 UTC 2016
Sorry, maybe not relevant to the list, and I didn't want to contact you
privately entirely out of the blue. Also thought others might be
interested in where this thread goes.
Looks like you're in Austin? Mind sharing what specifics you're working
on re: OSM accessibility here?
I'm a blind web/Android developer who has built an open source OSM-based
navigation system for Android. I'm also Austin-based. Unfortunately it
hasn't really been worked on in years, but I recently did a survey of
accessible Android navigation apps and found nothing that does what I
want, so I'm considering dusting it off. I may also consider
commercializing it to see if it can make a few bucks. If there's local
OSM a11y work in progress, that may give me the kick in the ass I need
to update it. And of course I want to integrate accessibility tagging
schemes as well. It'd be fun to hack on this stuff with local folks,
since a11y can be lonely work, and is more so when it's niche like
mapping. My girlfriend is also a wheelchair user, and I bet it wouldn't
be too hard to twist her arm to help with tagging things like accessible
bathrooms, curb cuts, etc. We collectively pretty much know where all
the broken sidewalk is, and I've long considered building some sort of
easy data collection app that sends those issues straight to OSM.
On 07/08/2016 12:49 PM, Michael Sidoric wrote:
> Thanks.
> Greatly admire your proposal. Our interests align with your intents as
> sidewalks and pedestrian ways are critical for accessibility for all
> people - especially low vision and blind users. Please feel free to
> call anytime at 512-839-1996 or tejasfilms on skype. We are proposing
> that precise routing become an ADA mandate and we are working with NFB
> Texas to push that forward.
> Regards from Austin
>
>
> apple iphone
>
> On Jul 8, 2016, at 12:24, Jess Hamilton <jesshami at uw.edu
> <mailto:jesshami at uw.edu>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Michael,
>> Thanks for your response. We have added your incline:across tag to
>> our recommended core features, and linked to your work in the related
>> proposals.
>>
>> Charles,
>> Thanks for the support. Is the discussion you mentioned part of a
>> public forum that we might be able to link to?
>>
>> Best,
>> Jess
>>
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>> 1. Re: sidewalk scheme & layer for accessible routing
>> (Charles Basenga Kiyanda)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 10:51:36 -0400
>> From: Charles Basenga Kiyanda <personal at charleskiyanda.com
>> <mailto:personal at charleskiyanda.com>>
>> To: Accessibility <accessibility at openstreetmap.org
>> <mailto:accessibility at openstreetmap.org>>,
>> montreal at listes.osmqc.ca <mailto:montreal at listes.osmqc.ca>
>> Subject: Re: [Accessibility] sidewalk scheme & layer for accessible
>> routing
>> Message-ID: <577E6C78.40102 at charleskiyanda.com
>> <mailto:577E6C78.40102 at charleskiyanda.com>>
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>> That is great news. We (openstreetmap montréal) worked with a prof at
>> Concordia University (www.concordia.ca <http://www.concordia.ca>)
>> on a class project for one of
>> his graduate courses in geography. Students gathered data, made
>> modifications to OSM and did some rendering after that, specifically
>> with accessibility in mind. They elected to use a "sidewalk distinct
>> from street" model since it gives more flexibility to represent all
>> topologies (at least with less kludging) than the "sidewalk as street
>> attribute" model.
>>
>> We now have a region of downtown Montréal that has both
>> representations
>> next to each other, so there's a discusison we'll need to have here
>> about where we go. Your proposal will surely be part of that
>> discussion.
>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/45.49665/-73.57815
>>
>> Personally, I prefer to represent sidewalks distinctly, so you'll
>> have
>> my vote.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Charles
>>
>> On 07/06/2016 02:02 PM, Jess Hamilton wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > My name is Jess I am a member of the Global OpenSidewalks
>> > <https://uwescience.github.io/DSSG2016-Sidewalks/> team, part
>> of this
>> > year's Data Science form Social Good
>> >
>> <http://escience.washington.edu/data-science-for-social-good-projects/>
>> (DSSG)
>> > program sponsored by the eScience institute at the University of
>> > Washington.
>> >
>> > We have been working on an OSM standard for sidewalk representation
>> > and annotation which we plan to present at the State of the Map
>> > Conference, and would love to get some feedback from the OSM
>> > accessibility community.
>> >
>> > Currently in OSM footpaths in the built environment are typically
>> > treated as an addendum to streets. As a result, sidewalks in
>> OSM have
>> > spotty coverage, an unintuitive implementation that makes user
>> > contribution difficult, and fail to serve many use cases, including
>> > the needs of people with limited mobility. Our project seeks
>> to make
>> > pedestrian ways, particularly sidewalks, first class members of an
>> > open data transportation network.
>> >
>> > We also are proposing an OSM rendering layer for pedestrian
>> ways. This
>> > layer would have similar properties to the OpenCycleMap layer but
>> > serves different use cases. Born out of the AccessMap
>> > project (http://www.accessmapseattle.com/), we are particularly
>> > interested in accessibility and facilitating routing for people
>> with
>> > limited mobility.
>> >
>> > Our OSM proposal can be found
>> > here:
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/sidewalk_schema
>> >
>> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/sidewalk_schema>
>> (this
>> > is still a work in progress) and project website
>> > here: https://uwescience.github.io/DSSG2016-Sidewalks/
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> > Jess
>> >
>> > --
>> > *Jess Hamilton*
>> > 2017 MLA Candidate
>> > University of Washington
>> > 646.369.9015 <tel:646.369.9015>
>> >
>> >
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