[Accessibility] Designs of tags for the blind corresponding to the Czech reality after a discussion with the author of the Street Complete application

[Miloš Šmíd]

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(Diskussion)

Hallo, friends,
I would like to present my questions and answers to the author of Street
Complete, who recommended my questions and ideas to design special tags for
OSM.org for the blind.
Is this the right place for this discussion and suggestions? Can I write
here in Czech or rather in English?

1. Comment on Street Complete: Does this stop have tactile paving - set it
to "not displayed in the Czech Republic".
Reasoning - in the Czech Republic, the edges of sidewalks and crossings,
so-called warning and signal strips, are marked with tactile paving, but
only at crossings or at dangerous places on sidewalks, not at public
transport stops.
Street Complete's answer - he did not understand a bit: searching for
tactile paving is allowed in the Czech Republic - he did not understand
that it is unnecessary at bus stops

Conversely, add a question (tag) to a public transport stop (buses, trams,
especially public transport - public transport or public transport):
Does the stop have a so-called intelligent talking departure board?
However, this can only be detected by activating a special VPN radio, which
only blind or partially sighted people own.
There are similar boards at train (railway) stations, departure and arrival
boards.

2. Barriers at railway crossings - in the Czech Republic they can be
supplemented with so-called additional sound signaling for the blind. A
list of these places can possibly be found on the website of the blind
organization www.sons.cz/bariery.
Street Complete's answer: it is allowed everywhere - prove it with a map of
crossings.

3. Stairs - the question is whether they have tactile paving at the top and
bottom. The question should also be whether the stairs for the visually
impaired are marked with a color, most often yellow or white - the first
and last step. It is even a far more common solution for barrier-free
accessibility, it also helps the elderly.
Street Complete's answer: they don't meet the search guidelines

4. What is the height of the curb - here I would replace this question with
a question about whether there is access to the sidewalk (for wheelchair
users).
Incidentally, this is a counterproductive solution for the blind, which is
why warning and signal strips were created to alert the blind to the end of
the sidewalk (see point 1).
Street Complete answer: in SC we can only present answers that can be
marked in OSM.

5. Transition - should have a tactile guide line in the middle - does it or
doesn't it?
Answer: if I understood your request correctly, this is not possible in
Street Complete.
Yes, the tag for OSM is missing!

6. Does crossing the street (road) have signaling for the blind?
If the person who edits the map does not have a VPN radio that activates
the signaling or if he happens to not hear it - a blind person with a VPN
radio activates it, he will probably set the tag to say that the transition
is signaling, but in fact there may be sound signaling. It's an
increasingly common phenomenon - newer traffic lights.
It is only partly related to the button on the post at the crossing - the
button on the divided crossing, with the island between the streams of the
road, the button on the post on the island can help the blind to turn off
the sound signaling on the already traveled route.
Street Complete's response: discuss new signage proposals on the forum or
mailing lists; will not meet the search instructions.

7. traffic light tag for cyclists - can also help the visually impaired -
traffic light at eye level, visually impaired can see it better, helps
cyclists, pedestrians. It is necessary to watch out for cyclists,
scooters...
Street Complete's response: discuss new signage proposals on the forum or
mailing lists; will not meet the search instructions

8. Some crossings have enhanced added lighting or a light down between the
zebra stripes (Cíglerova, Prague 14, on the bridge), possibly the zebra has
a reflective layer, it can be seen even in the dark (Prague-Dolní Počernice
experiment)
Street Complete's response: discuss new signage proposals on the forum or
mailing lists; will not meet the search instructions

9. tag for sound beacons for the blind, they are commonly found in the
Czech Republic on bank buildings, offices (Magistrates, courts, banks...),
post offices, schools, or at subway entrances or even inside subway
stations or at transport hubs.
Answer: discuss new labeling proposals in the forum or mailing lists; will
not meet the search instructions

10. tag for voiced ATMs - ATMs of banks ČSOB and Česká spořitelna in the
Czech Republic so far.
Street Comoplete's response: discuss new tagging proposals on the forum or
mailing lists; will not meet the search instructions

11. Do not forget the tag for the height of the passage, underpass, tunnel,
if it is low, lowered ceiling.
Street Complete answer: For tunnels and other places with height
restrictions, the height is already queried.

13. tag for the toilet - WC for the use of a euro key - the list can be
found at www.NRZP.cz - the website of the National Council of the Disabled
- guarantor of key issuance and administration in the Czech Republic.
Important especially for the blind, but also for wheelchair users and e.g.
those with ostomies. Street Complete Question: Are the toilets wheelchair
accessible? discuss new labeling proposals in the forum or mailing lists;
will not meet the search instructions
Me: Of course, that counts. Just add the Eurokey - this also means that you
don't have to pay for the toilet and that it is a separate barrier-free
facility
Thank you.
Miloš
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