[OSM-dev] dev plans (was: The future of sysadmin)

[80n]

Sebastian
OJW was part of the group where we were discussing root at the main
entrance.  I assumed that you knew him and so I didn't make any
introductions.  Anyway, he was there and knows who you are and that you were
press-ganged into having root access, so no problems there.

One thing that you should do, once you get root access, is to create a root2
account for Frederik as we discussed.

I live about 25 miles from where the servers are, so if dev really does need
a reboot then its possible that I could do it.  Lets get a remote console
asap.

Etienne

On 7/19/07, spaetz <osm at sspaeth.de> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 11:37:40PM +0100, Steve Coast wrote:
>
> > 80n and ojw have
> > requested handing root on dev to spaetz which I'm doing now. That
> > just leaves wiki - a VM machine hosted at bytemark for free very
> > kindly.
>
> Hi all,
>
> when I was asked to admin dev, I just didn't shout NO loud enough, I
> guess. But I did not volunteer pro-actively to gain root over dev. The
> biggest obstacle being me living in Switzerland. So traveling to London to
> reboot the dev box (I don't even know whether it would reboot at all in its
> current state) will be no option (at least if you can't tolerate downtimes
> of several weeks). So, if trusty local people who are compentent volunteer,
> I will happily retire from this job.
>
> A couple of notes in random order.
>
> -I am very grateful to NickH for what he has done for the project and how
> he handled things. So thanks for all that. Priorities change and real life
> intrudes, things happen. That's OK, but I think anything will be better than
> now, where it takes weeks to get an account added or a server restarted. It
> would be nice to stay in contact though as NickH knows that machine best of
> all of us.
>
> Plans for dev
> =============
> It has become apparent that t at h is a de-facto part of OSM and that people
> love quick feedback for their rendering. So dev has effectively become a
> production server for t at h. I think we should acknowledge reality and act
> accordingly. I see 3 options:
> 1) Keep dev and t at h on one machine. That would require significant
> hardware upgrades
> 2) Move t at h top its own server (at the conference there were some people
> offering quite powerful machines) and make dev a development server
> 3) Make dev a t at h server and try to get a new machine to experiment with
> dev work (it that is deemed necessary).
>
> I lean towards option 3 and declare dev to be a t at h server. That would
> mean that we should propably give dev a new name, such as, tah.osm.org(tilesAtHome) or
> tia.osm.org (TIlesAtosm) (suggestions welcome) and memory hogs like
> postgresql and other stuff which is not needed for TIA should be switched
> off to make dev's life a bit easier. However, that are my personal thoughts
> and I welcome feedback and other suggestions. Indeed, I'd like some healthy
> discussion surrounding these things. I also haven't talked to OJW about his
> needs/plans, as I unintentionally managed to not talk to him at SOTM at all,
> I think. So OJW and I will be having some chats before I start doing stuff,
> obviously.
>
> Currently, I don't plan to take part in the t at h server development. So I
> will try to enable the deployment of t at h on that box, but don't expect me
> to hack the request/queue/whatever thingies.
>
> About me
> ========
> Besides mapping and being a geek that teaches "Strategic Management"
> courses at University, I admin a couple of servers at our work. Although I
> am not a trained sysadmin, I do find my way around a Linux box which I
> started using in about 1997.
> Occasionally, I like crunching some statistics, such as those tag
> frequencies here http://sspaeth.de/weblog/OSM_tags (that /weblog URL is
> not being used otherwise BTW :-)). There is a nice graph on the bottom
> showing the "wayness" vs "nodeness" of tags.
>
> How to reach me:
> ================
> I haven't got root access yet, but will hopefully soon have. If there are
> urgent things. I set up the email 'osm <ETT> sspaeth.de' which I will
> often check. You can probably also reach me with jabber under
> spaetz at gmail.com. I also often lurk on IRC, nickname spaetz. We'll see
> what responsive time I'll have...
>
> Drop me a line with whatever thoughts/opinions/requests etc you have.
>
> I'll have fun,
> spaetz
>
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