[OSM-dev] Restrict key names on order to retain reusability of OSM

SteveC steve at asklater.com
Wed Feb 13 11:36:26 GMT 2008


On 13 Feb 2008, at 11:31, Stefan Keller wrote:

> SteveC,
> I acknowledge the argumentation of Jochen and Dave but I can't  
> follow yours.
> As regards me, you're still welcome to join the technical discussion.

Well that's kind of the point, OSM isn't a technical project. Mapping  
parties aren't about mapping the most area in a weekend, they're about  
engendering community. If you start from the position of making maps  
and community then the technical pieces fall in to place. Other  
projects start from the technology and then go the other way, that's  
why they fuck up.

> Stefan
>
> 2008/2/13, SteveC <steve at asklater.com>:
> On 13 Feb 2008, at 08:47, Stefan Keller wrote:
> >
> > > So to recap: The current allowable characters in OSM tag names is
> > UTF8 -
> > > Deal with it, instead of trying to impose limitations into OSM to
> > make
> > > OSM data comply with YOUR requirements.
> >
> > It's not 'my' requirement, it's about "best practices". The use
> > cases are e.g.:
> > * UMN MapServer (which is at least as capable as all known OSM
> > renderers)
>
> We don't like mapserver, see mapnik.
>
> > * Almost any other XML format/XML Schema
>
> We don't like schemas, see keyvals
>
> > * Any other database, any GIS
>
> We don't like GIS, see potlatch/josm
>
> OSM is and was a break with the past. Mapserver map files, GML, WFS-T,
> strong ontologies and friends.. these top-down 'best practices' in
> general just aren't very nice. We do the best/simplest things to make
> maps. Joe User doesn't care about any of those things. Joe User wants
> to make maps. It turns out that we've been able to do everything we
> need with simple nodes, ways and tags.
>
> have fun,
>
> SteveC | steve at asklater.com | http://www.asklater.com/steve/
>
>
>

have fun,

SteveC | steve at asklater.com | http://www.asklater.com/steve/






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