[OSM-dev] Restrict key names on order to retain reusability of OSM

Stefan Keller sfkeller at gmail.com
Wed Feb 13 19:12:20 GMT 2008


Sorry, are you sure, you're on the right list here?
I thought this was the OSM-developers list.
S.

2008/2/13, SteveC <steve at asklater.com>:
>
>
> On 13 Feb 2008, at 11:31, Stefan Keller wrote:
>
> > SteveC,
> > I acknowledge the argumentation of Jochen and Dave but I can't
> > follow yours.
> > As regards me, you're still welcome to join the technical discussion.
>
> Well that's kind of the point, OSM isn't a technical project. Mapping
> parties aren't about mapping the most area in a weekend, they're about
> engendering community. If you start from the position of making maps
> and community then the technical pieces fall in to place. Other
> projects start from the technology and then go the other way, that's
> why they fuck up.
>
> > Stefan
> >
> > 2008/2/13, SteveC <steve at asklater.com>:
> > On 13 Feb 2008, at 08:47, Stefan Keller wrote:
> > >
> > > > So to recap: The current allowable characters in OSM tag names is
> > > UTF8 -
> > > > Deal with it, instead of trying to impose limitations into OSM to
> > > make
> > > > OSM data comply with YOUR requirements.
> > >
> > > It's not 'my' requirement, it's about "best practices". The use
> > > cases are e.g.:
> > > * UMN MapServer (which is at least as capable as all known OSM
> > > renderers)
> >
> > We don't like mapserver, see mapnik.
> >
> > > * Almost any other XML format/XML Schema
> >
> > We don't like schemas, see keyvals
> >
> > > * Any other database, any GIS
> >
> > We don't like GIS, see potlatch/josm
> >
> > OSM is and was a break with the past. Mapserver map files, GML, WFS-T,
> > strong ontologies and friends.. these top-down 'best practices' in
> > general just aren't very nice. We do the best/simplest things to make
> > maps. Joe User doesn't care about any of those things. Joe User wants
> > to make maps. It turns out that we've been able to do everything we
> > need with simple nodes, ways and tags.
> >
> > have fun,
> >
> > SteveC | steve at asklater.com | http://www.asklater.com/steve/
> >
> >
> >
>
> have fun,
>
> SteveC | steve at asklater.com | http://www.asklater.com/steve/
>
>
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