[OSM-dev] Social component (was: Ways with 40k nodes, was: osmosis pgsql schema)

[Frederik Ramm]

Stefan,

Stefan de Konink wrote:
> Hence my C implementation of what 
> they are trying to build. I'll not start with my 0.6 until the specs are 
> finished 

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You are not, at least not from what I read on the mailing lists, a 
contributor to the OSM code base; you are unhappy with what is there, 
and trying to build a replacement, all the time droning on about the 
superiority of your solution. I don't even know what you're doing 
exactly, every now and then there is a post from you pointing to some 
git repository somewhere where you have some undocumented code that uses 
some allegedly superior database system and does something with OSM data 
where everything that is bad about OSM is somehow much better, "of course".

In a project like ours, it is quite possible to replace an existing 
solution by something else, but this is unlikely to happen by 
confrontation and by saying, in various degrees of loudness, how shitty 
everything is and how your idea is so much better. You would be in a 
much better position to improve OSM if you would actually participate in 
development, and without that condescending attitude of yours - even if, 
out of that involvement, came the idea that something should be replaced 
outright. If you had worked together with the others striving to make 
OSM better, then they would probably also hold your opinion in higher 
regard than the constant "I am so clever and you are so stupid, look hwo 
my software does everything better than your software" we're hearing 
from you.

The sad thing is that this is not a technocratic world. If you make a 
product that surpasses Coca Cola in every respect, it will still not be 
sold if you don't present it in the right way. The same with OSM; your 
work is without any use for OSM if it comes wrapped in an attitude like 
"take this hint from a genius, you losers".

If you really want to improve OSM then you'll have to change that 
attitude; as things stand, your contributions are just an exercise in 
narcissism. Which is sad because I can see that you have a lot of clever 
ideas - you just need to work on the packaging. Having a clever idea is 
one thing, but a project like OSM requires some social skills as well.

Bye
Frederik