[OSM-dev] API 0.6 returns 403 forbidden

Shaun McDonald shaun at shaunmcdonald.me.uk
Thu May 14 17:55:43 BST 2009

On 14 May 2009, at 17:43, Tels wrote:

> Moin,
> On Thursday 14 May 2009 18:35:32 Tels wrote:
>> Moin,
>> On Thursday 14 May 2009 09:31:56 Tom Hughes wrote:
>>> Jeffrey Warren wrote:
>>>> Hi, I suddenly started getting "403 - Forbidden" from my any
>>>> machine. I also get a 403 when i simply go to
>>>> "www.openstreetmap.org
>>>> <http://www.openstreetmap.org>" in a browser (just discovered
>>>> this...). Have I been blacklisted or is this an outage?
>>> I suspect you're the person I blocked last night because you were
>>> apparently trying to scrape map data from the API with a large
>>> number of presumably automated map calls.
>>> If you are the person I blocked then in the last four days you've
>>> made a total of 8186 map calls, an average of about 1.5 a minute.
>>> If you want bulk data, please use the planet dump not the API to
>>> get it.
>> I presume my own application (http://bloodgate.com/wiki/map) will
>> then be blocked, too.
>> Using the "plant dump + diffs" sounds easy, but is in fact impossible
>> for me. My online server does not have the capacity to store the
>> entire world, and I do not have the computing power and time to
>> convert it up-front, either. (Not to mention do upload the converted
>> data to my server from my home DSL line :(
>> (There is also the question what happens if importing an hourly diff
>> takes regulary longer than 60 minutes. So far the only data I have on
>> that is someone mentioning that it "takes between 40 and 70 minutes
>> with a fast harddisk"...)
>> Also, to download the whole dump, update it with minute diffs and
>> pregenerate a huge database is vastly more complicated and uses a lot
>> more processing power than just to fetch (and cache for X days) the
>> few areas someone is actually looking at.
> I know it's bad style to reply to yourself, but :)
> * took out api.openstreetmap.org from osmapi at bloodgate.com for now
> * the API server is waay to slow, in any case, so I am looking at the
> planet dump method, but it will take quite a while to developt the
> converter and I am not sure it will actually work
> Still, it would be good to know what the plans for the future are and
> how one could help to improve the situation. How expensive would it be
> to run an XAPI server like xapi.informationfreeway.org?

You may well want to use an extract (i.e. a country or region) and  
then use the diffs.


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