[OSM-dev] Migrating osm.org to vectors/Kartotherian

Maarten Deen mdeen at xs4all.nl
Fri Oct 30 12:31:36 UTC 2015


On 2015-10-30 12:29, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote:

> But if we have a vector-based map itself language selection, that we
> could just add tags _name:fr_ or _name: ru_ and have the OSM map of
> say New York in French or in Russian for tourists. Or map of Siberia
> in German also for tourists, Middle East in English, etc. without any
> additions cost on the server side. It is not that difficult to add
> such multi-language tags. There could be also the map in Basque,
> Catalan, Kurdish, Scots and other smaller (by number of speakers)
> languages without any additional cost and without a civil conflict.

Again, that does not work. I am Dutch. There are a lot of name:nl tags 
in the database that really are too obscure to put on a map.
There is a place "Grevelingen" which we associate with a lake in the 
southwest of the country. But it is also the old dutch name for the 
french town of Gravelines which nobody uses.
But similarly, I don't want to see the name:en tag for of cities 
because, as in my example, I will see Cologne or Brussels or Hook of 
Holland, which are all not what I want to see.
So you have to have some kind of mechanisme to decide when to show 
name:en (which I want to see for e.g. Afghanistan) and when to show 
name.


> I realize that mobile hardware is not enough advanced for that yet and
> vector-based technology is only in an development stage.
> 
> brgds
> Oleksiy
> 
> On 30.10.2015 12:06, Maarten Deen wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-10-30 11:53, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote:
>> 
>>> One of the advantages of the the vector-based map would be the
>>> multilingualism.
>>> 
>>> For instance at the moment the OSM map of the Middle East is
>>> basically
>>> useless for me as I do not know the Arabic alphabet yet. But as
>>> far as
>>> I understand and as I heard at the conference the vector-based map
>>> 
>>> would allow the choice of a language of the map itself.
>> 
>> I do not see how that can not be solved with png-based tiles. You
>> only have to render the tiles.
>> The method for detecting which tileset/language to show is the same.
>> 
>> 
>> BTW: it is still not as simple as rendering "in a different
>> language". Then you start rendering a map in English and see names
>> like "Cologne" or "Brussels"  show up on the map.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Maarten
>> 
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