[OSM-dev] Pl at ntNet contributing to OpenStreetMap

[Michael Collinson]

Hi Hugo,

I use and contribute to Pl at ntNet and it is truly great and a marvellous 
endeavour. A thank you to you for working on it! I am also a believer in 
"the more the merrier" as a doctrine for OpenStreetMap.

I am however dubious about pushing observations into the OpenStreetMap 
database, if my understanding is correct as to the intent.

Two reasons,

1) I contribute things like cultivated and wild plants in my garden and 
nearby road verges along with geolocation for anyone interested in 
looking at geographic spread. I don't think (purely personal view) that 
is of 100% value to OpenStreetMap itself - i.e rather like the Wikipedia 
notability criteria.  At most, I'd have a filter for only trees.

2) As I recall from my usage, there are choices when it comes to 
geolocation. One is to get a GPS fix, so in the sort of accuracy used by 
OpenStreetMap.  The other is to use a push pin - I wonder to what extent 
folks deliberately make it less than precise for privacy reason. Just 
speculating, but that would not be useful for OpenStreetMap. I've seen 
some of the ?Corrine tree cover imports and they are generally terrible. 
Could observations be restricted to GPS only?+

I am going to forward my response and your mail to Jerry Clough who is 
both a very active OSMer and a biologist as I am not sure if he is on 
this list. He might have some more authoritative thoughts ... but that 
is up to him!

What might be nice (and perhaps useful!) would a plant observation layer 
in OSM format that can be combined those interested. I think we at 
OpenStreetMap may be missing an opportunity to incorporate scientific 
and citizen science data into our ecosphere. The static natural world - 
plants, geology and geomorphology - has some sort of role I'm sure.

Mike


On 2022-08-09 15:15, Hugo Gresse wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm working on Pl at ntNet <http://plantnet.org/> mobile app (32 M users) 
> which allow users to identify plants and contribute/share them (with 
> the geolocation) on Pl at ntNet database. The data is then available for 
> everyone and also pushed to GBIF.org (a free global biodiversity 
> database).
>
> Users requested a feature to push their plant observations to OSM into 
> Wikidata format.
>
> The current plan to do this is to have a copy button in the app which 
> will format the data in text and put it in the user clipboard on his 
> mobile device: ||
>
> |genus=Cercis name=arbre de la piscine natural=tree species=Cercis 
> siliquastrum species:fr=Arbre de Judée src=survey;Observation : Cercis 
> siliquastrum L. (Pascal Vuylsteker 17 juin 2021) Flore mondiale - 
> Pl at ntNet identify |
>
> Would that be ok or ideal?
>
> If not, what could be done to facilitate adding data to OSM through 
> Pl at ntNet?
>
>
> Best,
> -- 
> *Hugo Gresse*
> Mobile engineer for Pl at ntNet <https://plantnet.org/> at INRIA / UMR AMAP
> Montpellier, FRANCE
>
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