[diversity-talk] Code of Conduct, was Re: NYC local disagreement

[Kate Chapman]

I thought that the Code of Conduct deserves its own thread.

One thing to think about is possibly adopted our own mailing list
guidelines with this list to start. Though a small start, it might
allow easier to consensus to being with something.

Also reviewing the modified Ubuntu Code of Conduct and starting with
the broader community would be good.

-Kate

On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Steve Singer <steve at ssinger.info> wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jun 2013, alyssa wright wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Serge for more of the history and context. I would be interested
>> in looking at your original documents and discussing if it's
>> possible/appropriate to resurrect some of these conversations.
>>
>> Alyssa.
>
>
> In case people people haven't been able to find this.
>
> You can find the draft OSM code of conduct Serge is referring to here
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Community_Code_of_Conduct_%28Draft%29
> That page also includes links to some of the discussions about this on -talk
>
> It is based on the Ubuntu code of conduct, KDE also appears to use this as a
> base (http://www.kde.org/code-of-conduct/).  The Mozilla project has a bit
> different approach http://www.mozilla.org/about/policies/participation.html)
>
> The Mozilla document has an explicit statements saying that disagreements
> and tough debates are good along with a recommended course of action to take
> if you encounter problems.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> On Jun 28, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Serge Wroclawski <emacsen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Darrell Fuhriman <darrell at garnix.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I totally understand the foundation not wanting to get involved in
>>>> individual disagreements, that doesn't absolve the foundation (or the
>>>> community generally) from their responsibility to ensure that the community
>>>> is as inclusive as possible.
>>>
>>>
>>> Darrell,
>>>
>>> When we founded the US chapter, one of my first agenda items was the
>>> creation of a Community Code of Conduct, one that would serve not only
>>> the US, but we could use as a boilerplate for the Foundation.
>>>
>>> At the time, this wasn't a popular idea and while I had several
>>> drafts, they were never voted on, either by the US Chapter, nor the
>>> OSMF. There were also several serious concerned raised about having
>>> such a process, ones that I never had a good answer to (such as where
>>> to draw the relationship line, who would be voting on these issues,
>>> what the process for voting would be, what to do about amendments or
>>> changes, and if having a formal document might actually harm the
>>> community by creating a series of rules.
>>>
>>> While I was the person who wanted a Code of Conduct, I did not have a
>>> good answer to these questions, and we had other, more immediate
>>> concerns.
>>>
>>> If someone would like to work on this I believe my drafts were either
>>> on the OSM wiki, or on Google Docs, and I can dig them out if they'd
>>> be of interest.
>>>
>>> As for the relationship between local groups and either the OSMF or
>>> the national chapters, that's a bit unclear. When we founded the US
>>> Chapter, we discussed creating a formalized relationship between the
>>> Chapter and the local groups, but those discussions did not result in
>>> any formal proposal.
>>>
>>> I'm certainly encouraged that this issue is being brought up again, I
>>> think that having a Community Code of Conduct is important, and I'd be
>>> happy to participate in re-engaging that process either as part of the
>>> US Chapter, or OSMF.
>>>
>>> - Serge
>>>
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