[diversity-talk] Childcare tagging

[alyssa wright]

Thanks Elliot and Kai!

I'm going to listen/voice in on the child care tag conversation (will keep
people posted) but I really like the idea of including such tags in the
editor presets.  Anyone know how such decisions are made with iD editor? Is
it a conversation with Tom/MapBox or is it a community discussion?

Thanks again,
Alyssa.


On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Kai Krueger <kakrueger at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 06/20/2013 09:30 PM, Elliott Plack wrote:
>
>> I remember Alyssa's talk and how the childcare / baby hatch /
>> kindergarden thing was panned by the community. Well, there is an active
>> "Childcare 2.0" proposal going on right now, and folks on the OSM Tagging
>> list are discussing it at present. Here is a link to the archived thread.
>> http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/pipermail/tagging/2013-**
>> June/013833.html<http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2013-June/013833.html>
>>
>> Sign up and post some comments before it goes to voting, so that history
>> doesn't repeat itself.
>>
> I would just like to remind people that voting on tagging proposals has
> little relevance in OpenStreetMap and is seen as a relatively controversial
> aspect within the project.
>
> (Usually) Everyone can use any tag they like to describe anything they
> care about. There is no need for a formal approval and you can just start
> using the tags straight away. OSM allows for any "special interest group"
> to come in and map their needs and interests. Be it baby hatches and child
> care, or be it the diameter and pressure of fire hydrants for use in the
> fire services.
>
> So don't let your self be discouraged, even if this or other proposals do
> get "rejected" by a couple of people on the wiki!
>
> That said, obviously there is an advantage to coordinate tagging and
> discussing things on the tagging list or the wiki beforehand, as if e.g.
> person A uses baby_hatch, person B uses baby_hatches, person C uses
> baby_klappe and so on, then even if the data is available in the database,
> it becomes rather difficult to use.
>
> Usually the best way to then promote a tagging schema, once you have a
> good and workable proposal, is to a) try and get it as presets into the
> editors and b) get it visualized on the map.
>
> The iD editor has a very nice search based tagging preset system. As they
> are therefore not limited by screen real estate, my guess would be they
> have a rather lenient policy on inclusion and it should be relatively easy
> to get those tags included.
>
> JOSM has the ability to define preset files which allows people to
> relatively easily add presets for their interests. E.g. like the preset
> file for playground equipment ( http://josm.openstreetmap.de/**
> wiki/Presets/Playground_**Equipment<http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Presets/Playground_Equipment>)
>
> Getting things included on the map is a little more tricky. For the main
> map on osm.org, the style has been pretty much unmaintained for the last
> year and so no changes have been made at all recently. However, you can
> always just render your own map. E.g. a "map for child infrastructure" /
> "map for parents".
>
> Kai
>
>
>
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>> Elliott Plack
>> http://about.me/elliottp
>>
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