[diversity-talk] Further Discussion on Increasing Diversity

[Kate Chapman]

Hi All,

How about we schedule a meeting next week to discuss some possible
steps? If I suggest Wednesday at 14:00 UTC does that work for most
people that are interested?

I'll volunteer HOT's mumble server(1) for the discuss unless someone
wants to volunteer a conference call line (which works
internationally).

Thanks,

-Kate

(1) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mumble

On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Kate Chapman <kate at maploser.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I just wanted to share this article on editathons aimed at closing the
> gender gap in Wikipedia(1).
>
> Another item we could think about for mapping parties is to have a
> diversity statement. Groups could simply link to it on their meet-up
> page or whatever software they are using to organize.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Kate
> (1) http://blogs.kcrw.com/whichwayla/2014/02/edit-a-thons-aim-to-erase-wikipedias-gender-gap
>
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Randal Hale
> <rjhale at northrivergeographic.com> wrote:
>> I think the biggest problem in general is attracting new people - be they
>> black white male female or green.
>>
>> OSM is a niche thing - It doesn't matter what is done with new editors and
>> new ideas - your typical user isn't going to muck around in the wiki (which
>> is a mess) OR get on a talk list and hope to get one of the people that
>> don't consider OSM their own personal playground.
>>
>> If you want to learn OSM on the WIKI one of the first things covered it
>> loading GPX data - once again new users don't care about that (maybe when
>> they get more advanced - yes). The LearnOSM site is good - BUT - which is
>> definitive? The wiki OR the LearnOSM site (or maybe they both have their own
>> merits.
>>
>> I always try to look at it from a "win" perspective - how does OSM win? For
>> me it's a win if I can convince an elderly  person to map their neighborhood
>> or a kid to map their elementary school or something they enjoy. I have
>> tried these very things - but knowing I would be the portal into OSM - there
>> isn't a good spot for them to get that type of support and understanding and
>> get questions answered. I spent a wonderful amount of time in the US Virgin
>> Islands working this previous summer - and that was always something I
>> wondered about "How can I convince a resident to show what they "love" on
>> OSM - be it their neighborhood or school or church?" The second question
>> became if I do this - "who will they end up talking to if they get active".
>> The second question always worried me.
>>
>> We've had conversations on this end about the "community map" aspect to OSM
>> - is it really just that? We've been beating a dead horse on other talk
>> lists on "OSM Community" - and I think that is something that needs
>> definition - who do you want in OSM? Is it everyone? Is it only a select
>> group? What is the current community? How is that defined?
>>
>>
>> Randy
>>
>> -----------------
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>> North River Geographic Systems, Inc
>> http://www.northrivergeographic.com
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>> rjhale at northrivergeographic.com
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>>
>> On 02/13/2014 08:29 AM, Alex Barth wrote:
>>
>> My top two priorities for increasing diversity, especially at events, are:
>>
>> - Appeal to newcomers. We're never going to create diversity with the people
>> who are already part of OSM, so I try to make sure I'm speaking to the
>> people who I haven't met yet rather than the crowd who's in the know.
>> - I make a personal effort to reach out to women to get involved. Diversity
>> is not just more women, I know, but this is actionable.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Fozy 81 <fozy81 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Yes, I'd be interested to attend a meeting on Diversity.
>>>
>>> And on mapping parties/meetups. The wiki could be updated to include a few
>>> tips on how to be inclusive.
>>>
>>> So in my experience - first I started in a pub on a week night. And to be
>>> honest that is an easy way to start (no room hire, convenient, beer). And
>>> nothing wrong with that . But have made the effort to mix it up with
>>> different venues and times to possibly attract different groups (which has
>>> worked to some extent).
>>>
>>> So I guess, the main thing is to run an event - it's a fun thing to do and
>>> will gather the existing community and may attract new people. But IMHO if
>>> you are planning on running a series of events - try to mix the venues,
>>> times and groups you are interacting with. And try to find different
>>> contacts/ways to broadcast your event (social media, email, notices etc).
>>>
>>> + 1 all the advice on atmosphere/welcoming/questions etc
>>>
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
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