[Diversity-talk] Code of Conduct & Moderation for this list

[Selene Yang]

After having a share of the results from the international gender
representation survey from Geochicas, we've come to a conclusion that at
least 7 out of 10 contributors believe in the need of implementing a CoC in
OSM in general, not only in specific lists.

Sele.

2018-03-01 6:19 GMT-06:00 Ilya Zverev <ilya at zverev.info>:

> Hi,
>
> I'm a moderator on the Russian forum. A year ago I introduced CoC (called
> "rules", but technically it's CoC). I based these on several examples, like
> the Django one, translated and adapted to Russia. There was a huge backlash
> from some members, angry posts on the OSM diary appear to this day. But
> despite several reports to forum admins and to OSMF working groups, CoC
> still stands.
>
> Obviously at first it lead to some temporary bans, but with time there are
> zero users banned, and everyone is pretty polite and constructive. Which is
> a visible difference to how the forum was before me. The amount of
> discussions decreased, but the quality, in my opinion, rose.
>
> To me, there are two important conditions for CoC to succeed: cutting
> users slack (we have "one warning" policy + these expire after a time) and
> being strict in enforcing the CoC (banning multiple users at once if
> needed).
>
> So, I think to install CoC the moderator should just go and do it, and
> worry about technicalities later. If somebody does not like being in a
> space with CoC, they can choose any of the remaining hundred of mailing
> lists.
>
> Ilya
>
> > 1 марта 2018 г., в 15:04, Jo Walsh <metazool at fastmail.net> написал(а):
> >
> > Hi folks. I'm glad of this forum to reboot this discussion.
> >
> > From my POV the Code of Conduct is boilerplate and should include the
> minimum necessary in order to be both accepted and effective. For better or
> worse the absence of a CoC has become a signpost that an online community
> is not welcoming.
> >
> > When the CoC discussion blew up on the OSMF-talk list last year I tried
> to read the background and liked what I saw at:
> > https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/blob/master/CODE_OF_
> CONDUCT.md
> >
> > It derives from the Go community, which lifted from Django and Rust,
> which were inspired by GeekFeminism efforts. The wording is pretty minimal
> and I like the initial emphasis on the positive.
> >
> >> We might even include something like "OpenStreetMap participation
> style" in
> >> that list so we do not have to tolerate disparaging remarks about remote
> >> mappers, craft mappers, newbie mappers or folks that participate through
> >> non-mapping contributions.
> >
> > Imo this would be walking into a minefield, encourage accusations of
> tone policing.  The emphasis on having to spell out all kinds of
> unacceptable behaviour, as you note below, is to avoid a lot of contentious
> discussion about what is acceptable; it's the long discussion rather than
> any initial incident which will repel people or burn them out.
> >
> > I think contribution styles are not in scope here. OSM friends have
> wondered "why do we not include positive attributes that mappers should
> have, such as emphasis on surveying, no trespassing, etc" but an effort to
> get the wording right / get enough eyes and minds on the description of
> values, would just further delay the sensible adoption of a baseline CoC
> >
> >> How many endless discussions
> >> will there be (or have their been) about what is offensive as opposed to
> >> the somewhat easier to identify, disparaging or derogatory comment.
> >
> > Historically there has been a mailing list CoC but i dont think it had
> enough input to get adoption, it's narrow in scope and overly specific, it
> would be great if an effort here could trickle up into something OSMF as a
> whole could adopt
> > https://github.com/mvexel/CoC-mailing-lists/blob/master/
> code_of_conduct.md
> >
> > Lots more to discuss but i'll leave it here :D
> >
> >
> > Jo
> >
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Selene Yang Rappaccioli
Candidata Doctoral en Comunicación
Universidad Nacional de La Plata
@SeleneYang
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