[Diversity-talk] Code of Conduct & Moderation for this list

[Kristin Bott]

Hi all --

On the OSGeo side of things, we put a bunch of work into creating a CoC
(and related committee, private listserv, reporting structure, etc) a few
years ago. The text of the CoC itself was based off of a variety of things
from different online communities / tech groups / feminism groups / etc.

CoC is here:: http://www.osgeo.org/code_of_conduct/

... if you'd like more fodder for discussion. Happy to talk about any of
this more if that's helpful; feel free to reach out.

cheers -
-kristin/k.bott

portland, oregon, USA

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 9:26 AM, Selene Yang <seleneyang1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> After having a share of the results from the international gender
> representation survey from Geochicas, we've come to a conclusion that at
> least 7 out of 10 contributors believe in the need of implementing a CoC in
> OSM in general, not only in specific lists.
>
> Sele.
>
> 2018-03-01 6:19 GMT-06:00 Ilya Zverev <ilya at zverev.info>:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm a moderator on the Russian forum. A year ago I introduced CoC (called
>> "rules", but technically it's CoC). I based these on several examples, like
>> the Django one, translated and adapted to Russia. There was a huge backlash
>> from some members, angry posts on the OSM diary appear to this day. But
>> despite several reports to forum admins and to OSMF working groups, CoC
>> still stands.
>>
>> Obviously at first it lead to some temporary bans, but with time there
>> are zero users banned, and everyone is pretty polite and constructive.
>> Which is a visible difference to how the forum was before me. The amount of
>> discussions decreased, but the quality, in my opinion, rose.
>>
>> To me, there are two important conditions for CoC to succeed: cutting
>> users slack (we have "one warning" policy + these expire after a time) and
>> being strict in enforcing the CoC (banning multiple users at once if
>> needed).
>>
>> So, I think to install CoC the moderator should just go and do it, and
>> worry about technicalities later. If somebody does not like being in a
>> space with CoC, they can choose any of the remaining hundred of mailing
>> lists.
>>
>> Ilya
>>
>> > 1 марта 2018 г., в 15:04, Jo Walsh <metazool at fastmail.net> написал(а):
>> >
>> > Hi folks. I'm glad of this forum to reboot this discussion.
>> >
>> > From my POV the Code of Conduct is boilerplate and should include the
>> minimum necessary in order to be both accepted and effective. For better or
>> worse the absence of a CoC has become a signpost that an online community
>> is not welcoming.
>> >
>> > When the CoC discussion blew up on the OSMF-talk list last year I tried
>> to read the background and liked what I saw at:
>> > https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/blob/
>> master/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md
>> >
>> > It derives from the Go community, which lifted from Django and Rust,
>> which were inspired by GeekFeminism efforts. The wording is pretty minimal
>> and I like the initial emphasis on the positive.
>> >
>> >> We might even include something like "OpenStreetMap participation
>> style" in
>> >> that list so we do not have to tolerate disparaging remarks about
>> remote
>> >> mappers, craft mappers, newbie mappers or folks that participate
>> through
>> >> non-mapping contributions.
>> >
>> > Imo this would be walking into a minefield, encourage accusations of
>> tone policing.  The emphasis on having to spell out all kinds of
>> unacceptable behaviour, as you note below, is to avoid a lot of contentious
>> discussion about what is acceptable; it's the long discussion rather than
>> any initial incident which will repel people or burn them out.
>> >
>> > I think contribution styles are not in scope here. OSM friends have
>> wondered "why do we not include positive attributes that mappers should
>> have, such as emphasis on surveying, no trespassing, etc" but an effort to
>> get the wording right / get enough eyes and minds on the description of
>> values, would just further delay the sensible adoption of a baseline CoC
>> >
>> >> How many endless discussions
>> >> will there be (or have their been) about what is offensive as opposed
>> to
>> >> the somewhat easier to identify, disparaging or derogatory comment.
>> >
>> > Historically there has been a mailing list CoC but i dont think it had
>> enough input to get adoption, it's narrow in scope and overly specific, it
>> would be great if an effort here could trickle up into something OSMF as a
>> whole could adopt
>> > https://github.com/mvexel/CoC-mailing-lists/blob/master/code
>> _of_conduct.md
>> >
>> > Lots more to discuss but i'll leave it here :D
>> >
>> >
>> > Jo
>> >
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> Selene Yang Rappaccioli
> Candidata Doctoral en Comunicación
> Universidad Nacional de La Plata
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